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Old 06-26-2020, 02:43 PM #1
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2020 Iron City Classic (ICC) Cancelled due to COVID concerns

The 2020 event has been cancelled per the ICC Facebook. It was additionally announced that it was cancelled due to a moral obligation the organizers felt they had to keep the community safe due to the fact that Tim had in fact passed away from Covid19. Really sad how everything has transpired the last few days and my thoughts go out to Tim's entire family and friends.

If you want to donate to the memorial fund in Tim's name visit the Tim Montressor Memorial Fund Page


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Iron City Classic will live on, in the spirit of which Tim Montressor created and fostered.

However, due to the nature of Tim's passing and the potential risk to our community, we will be canceling the 2020 event. Please take a few moments to watch & hear about 2021.

Team captains or members that paid entry fees for 2020 season will have three options:
1) Entry and spot may be carried over to the 2021 event.
2) Entry fee split donation*
3) Entry Fee refund & spot forfeiture

* 50% of your paid entry will be sent to the Tim Montressor memorial fund and 50% of your entry fee will be retained and will be used in the maintenance and promotion of ICC future events. A team spot IS NOT held with this option.*

Video is here: https://www.facebook.com/ironcitycla...2471340943778/
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Old 06-26-2020, 03:23 PM #2
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This year has been a mess, and I’m not shocked to hear this. It’s to bad but it’s a necessary deed.

The fee options sound fair and I can most people just using it for next year.
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That's the first I've heard that Tim died from Covid. This year sucks.
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That's the first I've heard that Tim died from Covid. This year sucks.
I think you don't necessarily die FROM it but due to other complications when you have it.

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Maybe it's meant as he passed very quickly and unexpectedly, and not COVID related. This may be one of those times where the English languages ability to have subtle meanings is causing issues?
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They also posted a video and said he died due to complications caused by covid.
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Maybe it's meant as he passed very quickly and unexpectedly, and not COVID related. This may be one of those times where the English languages ability to have subtle meanings is causing issues?
Russell confirmed it was Covid in the video
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Sadly I am not surprised it was Covid after someone mentioned it was likely an aneurysm. More and more doctors are concluding Covid-19 is as much a circulatory disease as a respiratory disease. Breathing problems are just the most immediate issue that presents. Those surviving bad cases have shown liver damage, strokes and a range of circulatory issues variously involving clotting. And mind boggling exhaustion. My wife's coworker and friend in her thirties caught it and it was a beat down even with her moderate case. Im talking crawling up the stairs and taking all day to take a shower. Another bit older coworker fought it at home for a week before winding up in the ER narrowly avoiding being intubated (and being too delirious to remember it later and reading it in her chart.)

Seriously people, you don't want to try your luck with Covid. Wear a damn mask in public and keep your distance, especially indoors.
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Maybe it's meant as he passed very quickly and unexpectedly, and not COVID related. This may be one of those times where the English languages ability to have subtle meanings is causing issues?
So I was talking to my doctor, and he said that they’re thinking this virus can occasionally trigger blood clots. I know someone mentioned that tim went to the hospital with a severe headache, so maybe that’s what happened
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So I was talking to my doctor, and he said that they’re thinking this virus can occasionally trigger blood clots. I know someone mentioned that tim went to the hospital with a severe headache, so maybe that’s what happened



I don't know why you would talk or listen to a doctor, this guy here knows more than the infectious disease expects!






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Most of those deaths aren’t even real
https://www.pbnation.com/showthread....#post100240415

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So hey buddy, if you want to stay inside until that Vicious 0.01% gamble of you dying goes away, from then by all means, go ahead.

And FYI, I know this stuff because it was once my job expose media outlets. I can do better journalism then multi billion dollar media outlets, while sitting in my car. You need to start looking at the randomizes antibody studies that are coming out. Again, John Hopkins does not account for those. They’re going by confirmed covid cases and deaths, do you understand?
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Nailed it on the dot. For people under 45, this actually has a LOWER mortality rate then the flu does. Which means you have over a 99.9% survival rate if you exclude nursing homes. Older people tend to get vaccinated every year, there’s no vaccine for this which is why you’re seeing it rip through nursing homes like wild fire.
https://www.pbnation.com/showthread....#post100240807
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So I was talking to my doctor, and he said that they’re thinking this virus can occasionally trigger blood clots. I know someone mentioned that tim went to the hospital with a severe headache, so maybe that’s what happened
I would be surprised if COVID was the primary factor. Assuming he tested positive, it would be “COVID related” no matter what the cause of death was.
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It’s already been said it was COVID.

These stupid semantics are killing people...

It’s a Virus that affects the whole body.
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It’s already been said it was COVID.

These stupid semantics are killing people...

It’s a Virus that affects the whole body.
Yep

That like saying your cause of death wasn't by HIV/AIDS because you died of a bacterial infection despite having the virus.

IF Tim tested positive for COVID (which seems to be the case but correct me I I'm wrong) and died from complications, the cause of his death is COVID given how the virus works.

Again take it seriously, wear a mask and stay safe.

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So I was talking to my doctor, and he said that they’re thinking this virus can occasionally trigger blood clots. I know someone mentioned that tim went to the hospital with a severe headache, so maybe that’s what happened



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So hey buddy, if you want to stay inside until that Vicious 0.01% gamble of you dying goes away, from then by all means, go ahead.

And FYI, I know this stuff because it was once my job expose media outlets. I can do better journalism then multi billion dollar media outlets, while sitting in my car. You need to start looking at the randomizes antibody studies that are coming out. Again, John Hopkins does not account for those. They’re going by confirmed covid cases and deaths, do you understand?
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Nailed it on the dot. For people under 45, this actually has a LOWER mortality rate then the flu does. Which means you have over a 99.9% survival rate if you exclude nursing homes. Older people tend to get vaccinated every year, there’s no vaccine for this which is why you’re seeing it rip through nursing homes like wild fire.
https://www.pbnation.com/showthread....#post100240807
Hello, I hope you had a great 4th of July weekend. Let’s go over the numbers with you for California alone, that the CDC just listed on their website, as well as the California department of health,

Between the ages of 18-35 there are a total of Confirmed 83,608 infections in the state of California, with a total of 64 deaths. And that doesn’t even account for the thousands of cases that have not, or were not reported. So do the math, and that leaves you with a mortality rate of 0.0007%, For that age group.

https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CID...Age-Group.aspx

And yes, the deaths are very inflated, as seen in this video. They’ve listed drug overdoses, suicides, homicides, car accidents etc as covid deaths.

https://youtu.be/KJSakjAivbU

And also, the CDC has listed that the overall mortality rate of the virus between all age groups, is 0.02%, which is slightly higher then the flu, as me, and many others were saying back in April, along with doctors and nurses who were censored on YouTube, Facebook and twitter for their findings.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...scenarios.html

Let me know if that helps or if you have anymore concerns. And also I’ve been told tim actually died from an aneurysm, but had tested positive for the virus.
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Hello, I hope you had a great 4th of July weekend. Let’s go over the numbers with you for California alone, that the CDC just listed on their website, as well as the California department of health,

Between the ages of 18-35 there are a total of Confirmed 83,608 infections in the state of California, with a total of 64 deaths. And that doesn’t even account for the thousands of cases that have not, or were not reported. So do the math, and that leaves you with a mortality rate of 0.0007%, For that age group.

https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CID...Age-Group.aspx

And yes, the deaths are very inflated, as seen in this video. They’ve listed drug overdoses, suicides, homicides, car accidents etc as covid deaths.

https://youtu.be/KJSakjAivbU

And also, the CDC has listed that the overall mortality rate of the virus between all age groups, is 0.02%, which is slightly higher then the flu, as me, and many others were saying back in April, along with doctors and nurses who were censored on YouTube, Facebook and twitter for their findings.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...scenarios.html

Let me know if that helps or if you have anymore concerns. And also I’ve been told tim actually died from an aneurysm, but had tested positive for the virus.
Mortality rate isn't the only thing. Don't forget the virus may cause lasting health effects. Since you listed a YT video here's one as well (sources in video's description). https://youtu.be/mIJYfsOyO4M . There is increasing evidence the virus may affect the brain directly.

Your focus on mortality rate ignores the transmission rate, or R0, which is higher than say the flue Just because you won't die from it cause your young doesn't mean you won't spread it to your parents who are older (or anyone else with risk factors like diabetes)

Also if you have Covid and died... it's what caused you to die. You don't count a person dying in a car crash as a death from diabetes cause he had diabetes. Based on the OP... what caused the complication? covid.

Lastly you list a PLANNING scenario. The current Case Fatality Rate (CFR) on the CDC website as of 5 jul is 4.55% (not the .0002 that you wrote). 129,576 deaths / 2,841,906 deaths. This is not the flu. You can learn about the differences here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szueWSgLHpw or https://youtu.be/qf3Ih0kNvlU

I'm afraid you haven't exposed anything except downplay the seriousness of a GLOBAL pandemic. You are correct: don't hide. But also be aware and practice social distancing/mask wearing/etc. Sadly Montressor was just 36. RIP.

Source: my brother is an MD working the ICU where his is at 100% capacity with 75% of them being COVID.
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It should be for now when it pertains to COVID

If other sports/hobbies/industries had someone as young and influential for them like Tim dying because of the current global pandemic, you can bet community leaders would be making a big fuss about educating their base properly about the disease.

The fact some people here think dying from complications of COVID "means" not actually dying from COVID says a lot.
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Hello, I hope you had a great 4th of July weekend. Let’s go over the numbers with you for California alone, that the CDC just listed on their website, as well as the California department of health,

Between the ages of 18-35 there are a total of Confirmed 83,608 infections in the state of California, with a total of 64 deaths. And that doesn’t even account for the thousands of cases that have not, or were not reported. So do the math, and that leaves you with a mortality rate of 0.0007%, For that age group.

https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CID...Age-Group.aspx

And yes, the deaths are very inflated, as seen in this video. They’ve listed drug overdoses, suicides, homicides, car accidents etc as covid deaths.

https://youtu.be/KJSakjAivbU

And also, the CDC has listed that the overall mortality rate of the virus between all age groups, is 0.02%, which is slightly higher then the flu, as me, and many others were saying back in April, along with doctors and nurses who were censored on YouTube, Facebook and twitter for their findings.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...scenarios.html

Let me know if that helps or if you have anymore concerns. And also I’ve been told tim actually died from an aneurysm, but had tested positive for the virus.
Mortality rate isn't the only thing. Don't forget the virus may cause lasting health effects. Since you listed a YT video here's one as well (sources in video's description). https://youtu.be/mIJYfsOyO4M . There is increasing evidence the virus may affect the brain directly.

Your focus on mortality rate ignores the transmission rate, or R0, which is higher than say the flue Just because you won't die from it cause your young doesn't mean you won't spread it to your parents who are older (or anyone else with risk factors like diabetes)

Also if you have Covid and died... it's what caused you to die. You don't count a person dying in a car crash as a death from diabetes cause he had diabetes. Based on the OP... what caused the complication? covid.

Lastly you list a PLANNING scenario. The current Case Fatality Rate (CFR) on the CDC website as of 5 jul is 4.55% (not the .0002 that you wrote). 129,576 deaths / 2,841,906 deaths. This is not the flu. You can learn about the differences here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szueWSgLHpw or https://youtu.be/qf3Ih0kNvlU

I'm afraid you haven't exposed anything except downplay the seriousness of a GLOBAL pandemic. You are correct: don't hide. But also be aware and practice social distancing/mask wearing/etc. Sadly Montressor was just 36. RIP.

Source: my brother is an MD working the ICU where his is at 100% capacity with 75% of them being COVID.
Yes the covid transmission rate is 3x higher then influenza. The case fate mortality rate is NOT 4.5 %. You can even just look at case studies to figure that out.

1200 infected on the USS Roosevelt docked in New York....only one death, 4 hospitalized and more then half never developed symptoms. Now, the navy is a younger crowd, so that falls in with the 18-35 age range typically. So let’s look at the meat packaging plants that got infected.

Smithfield: ~1000 infections, 2 deaths.
Triumph: ~500 infections, 1 death.

Workforce IFR, that’s between 0.01-0.02 for those case studies.

And as far as after effects from the virus, you see that in many viruses.

“ Also if you have Covid and died... it's what caused you to die. ”

No, the problem is I personally know someone who hung himself, and was listed as a covid death....what I’m saying is, you can’t go out swimming, get eaten by a shark, have your remains test positive for covid, and then have covid listed as the cause of death. What’s wrong with that picture I just listed? The man clearly died because he was eaten by a shark, not because of his covid infection. The lady clearly said in that video that I listed, “if you were given 3 weeks left to live with cancer, and then you test positive for covid and die 3 weeks later, you will be listed as a covid death.”

So again, this is public knowledge that the deaths are severely inflated, even dr Fauci and Birx have said they’re inflated between 25-35%. Hospitals get more funding when they list covid on death certificates, even when they know covid wasn’t the actual cause of death.

Here’s a better link to the cdc mortality rate

https://www.google.com/amp/s/reason....RITarU8Zt8Fiw&

Also my mom is a nurse near chicago. She said the hospital near the city is nearly at full capacity but every other hospital around the area, is at 50% or lower. Another problem were seeing is now hospitals are facing an increase in patients with no covid symptoms due to avoiding doctor visits. People are avoiding hospital visits when they have chest pain, abdominal pain etc...and it’s turning out they’re having heart attacks
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