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Old 05-24-2020, 09:06 PM #1
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Exclamation What do you think will save paintball?

I'm 42 and have been playing on and off for 20yrs. When i started with my Tippman rental and congregating with all the players with their angels and Autocockers i knew i had to get there. Bought my own Autococker and joined a rookie 3 man team. Being able to put your new hard earned beauty on her stand to parade in front of everyone b4 you played was awesome. It let you express you individuality. The hopper you run. The stickers you had. The community was awesome. Sure there were some dicks but most everyone encouraged each other and always helped. Ive read the dynamics of trends considering the ROF race and the manufacturers backstories. It always seem like paintball is always just trying to bust through to mainstream but never does. Looked to me its best chance was in the early 2000s when extreme sports was popping. I'm here now for the third time in my life looking at b/s/t threads getting my gear back up and im very alarmed on how dead it is here. It makes me sad. Most shops around me have closed down. Online presence is limited to a select few. Seems to me that the brick an mortars cant keep up. That has always been part of the experience. Going to your local shop and talking with people. Airsoft has come with a surge due to the cost and 50cal paintball is trying to help with that. When it boils down to it...

Paintball is aimed at a young market but cost more than what they can afford. Even as a 20yr old with a halfway decent job getting a 1700 Angel was fkn nuts. The manufacturers keep kicking out a high priced product but is client base is slowly going away. I'm currently getting my son into the sport and he is no where near the level of excitement i used to be at. Why should he be? Companies of paint,markers,fields have nonexistent advertising. Nothing to be excited about there. Its like they just cater to the existing players that know whats going on and have 0 interest in new ones. Forums are dead. No input for new players that had a great time at their field. Seems to me that all excising buyers and supporters have their heads in their own worlds. This is going to die...Soon unless something changes and no one is addressing trying to fix it..It just makes me sad. I could be out of line but i think the prices have got to come down on EVERYTHING or you need to make paintball cool again because the broke shop owners sure as hell cant and the select few that have played for years are not helping in bringing in new clients. You all race for the newest marker for 1700 dollars when you don't realize to anyone else it is completely insane. That same marker will go for 500 in a few years. The demand is dwindling. Im not paying for your CS2 or your new Geo because NO ONE PLAYS ANYMORE. The novelty is gone. Your demand is dying! You gotta hunt people to give you props because no one gives a **** and will likely make fun of you for paying that much unless your in your own clique.. You companies are running out of time.The stores and sites that sell your product struggle from the get go and you will have no one to sell to very soon.
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Everyone...do what you can to make paintball cool again
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Old 05-25-2020, 02:28 PM #2
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Well, this pandemic will be final nail in coffin for a lot of the industry. I know my local paintball shop hasn't been open in over 2 months now. That is the only place to fill paintball tanks in town unless you have your own setup. Also the local paintball field looks like it will be permanently closed now. If that's the case the nearest field would be over 50+ miles away. Basically eliminating any chances to play again.

I agree with cost being too high as well. Even if you bring your own paintball gun to field it generally cost 10$-15$ to use field, 10$ for all day air, and usually not allowed to bring your own paintballs and must buy their overpriced 40-50$ per 2000 balls. Ends up costing like 60-70$ a day just to play, and it's more like $100 for someone without their own gun and equipment. Price is just way too high and scares all the new people away.

Also there's usually an issue with the first experience for a lot of paintball players. I remember my first time going to field as a kid 15+ years ago and getting a rental gun going out on that field and seeing everyone else with their angels custom setup that all shot ridiculously fast. I was scared to play paintball until I could get a better gun that shot just as fast.

Paintball technology has basically reached it's pinnacle and any new stuff is barely marginally better. Back 10-20 years ago manufactures could release new things and it would be revolutionary but that doesn't happen much anymore as the technology has matured. Which makes excitement for new paintball gun releases not there at least to me.

I think Paintball will slowly evolve into niche sport with less and less fields. Liability issues make owning a public field cumbersome and more expensive than it needs to be, with very little profit to be made for a majority of them. If fields want to succeed they need to put paint at what they pay for it, change rental guns to shoot faster so newbies can actually have fun and feel more confident. They need to implement a new pay system instead of paying 10-15$ to use field all day, it should be more like 2-5$ per play like bowling is, that way people who want to only play a couple rounds can pop in and can play without spending 60$. There needs to be more unique fields, too many fields are copying similar layouts and styles as professional paintball blowup airball fields, they need to bring back more homemade courses that don't try to copy tournament speedball courses. Fields need to find better sponsorships and team up with local businesses to support operation cost. If you can get traffic through field then advertising spots can be worth more than enough to pay for field cost.

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Old 05-25-2020, 06:08 PM #3
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I think field cost isn't so much of an issue. The field and shop owners are not making a killing by any means. I think it boils down to paint prices. 20 for field an air im ok with. 15 for a rental i think most people are ok with. When you drop that 60 bucks for paint it just boils it over imo.
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Old 05-26-2020, 05:42 AM #4
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I started playing in 2015 prices didn't change much until now. From what I have read there were times you had to pay over 100$ a case so I can't complain about that.

Even tough my local field advertises their membership with "cheaper paint" every player with or without membership which comes with their own marker gets that "reduced" price. The field owner told me that they actually sell more paint/make more money this way cause everyone is willing to play more often. Selling 45-55€/case - pro shar.

And then there are other fields around my area selling GI 1 star or similar field paint for 60€/case. I wouldn't bother if they at least give me something usable for that price.
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Old 05-26-2020, 11:04 AM #5
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Funny that you bring this up because I just had the same conversation with my husband. He used to go every weekend before he met me about 15-20 years ago. I started getting into it for casual play after I met him. Without him introducing me to it and saying that it doesn’t hurt that bad, I would have never if played. I don’t recall ever having it advertised towards me. I knew of a few people who played who said it hurts to get hit.

After getting into the paintball think, it started getting prohibitively expensive so we kinda stopped going soon after the 2008 downturn. The paint prices combined with entry at the local fields is just too much to do it on the regular even if you are doing well career-wise, especially if you are coming as one household instead of a single person. Add on top of that the initial investment you make in any markers and gear, then repairs, etc...

Anyway, fast forward to now and we played for the first time in years last weekend. It was definitely a couple hundred dollars for entry, paint, etc. Of course, I immediately became addicted again! I find it hard in this economy to believe that we will be able to play more than a couple times this year though given the economy and everything going on (even though I want to play more). The sad thing is, in this pandemic it’s the only thing that is open near me for entertainment.

I think to save it people need to stop with negative comments about it being painful to get hit so that people won’t be deterred from playing and some investments need to be made into far reaching advertising. Also, paintball parks should come down a bit on prices at least in the short term to allow more people to get exposure to the sport. Easier said than done.
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Old 05-26-2020, 04:55 PM #6
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Well, this pandemic will be final nail in coffin for a lot of the industry. I know my local paintball shop hasn't been open in over 2 months now. That is the only place to fill paintball tanks in town unless you have your own setup. Also the local paintball field looks like it will be permanently closed now. If that's the case the nearest field would be over 50+ miles away. Basically eliminating any chances to play again.
I hope covid doesn't kill paintball for good. I played from 2002 until about 2010 and probably wouldn't have thought to start playing again if I wasn't sitting around doing with nothing to do. I am surprised at how cheap the sport has become since I last played. I hope to start supporting my local fields again once I get all the gear I need together.
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Old 05-26-2020, 09:57 PM #7
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Funny that you bring this up because I just had the same conversation with my husband. He used to go every weekend before he met me about 15-20 years ago. I started getting into it for casual play after I met him. Without him introducing me to it and saying that it doesnít hurt that bad, I would have never if played. I donít recall ever having it advertised towards me. I knew of a few people who played who said it hurts to get hit.

After getting into the paintball think, it started getting prohibitively expensive so we kinda stopped going soon after the 2008 downturn. The paint prices combined with entry at the local fields is just too much to do it on the regular even if you are doing well career-wise, especially if you are coming as one household instead of a single person. Add on top of that the initial investment you make in any markers and gear, then repairs, etc...

Anyway, fast forward to now and we played for the first time in years last weekend. It was definitely a couple hundred dollars for entry, paint, etc. Of course, I immediately became addicted again! I find it hard in this economy to believe that we will be able to play more than a couple times this year though given the economy and everything going on (even though I want to play more). The sad thing is, in this pandemic itís the only thing that is open near me for entertainment.

I think to save it people need to stop with negative comments about it being painful to get hit so that people wonít be deterred from playing and some investments need to be made into far reaching advertising. Also, paintball parks should come down a bit on prices at least in the short term to allow more people to get exposure to the sport. Easier said than done.

The pain is a good point. I guess it took a adrenaline junkie to look past that. For me it was a matter of playing with people and seeing what they shot and at that time having an electro was an edge, Plus the markers looked cool. As of now having an electro means nothing. I guess you could want a cool marker that the guy who dominated the field had but once again it goes back to advertising and hype. Most of that is pointed to the experienced player. Even as a player coming back in you dont know what from what. As a kid you had to drive the ford escort while the cool kids drove vettes. Now everyone has a vette and your just deciding on what trim suits you. Its actually nice that they got forearm protectors and other pads now. That will def take away from the pain and i can totally see how you were a market that wasn't even considered.
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Old 05-27-2020, 08:18 PM #8
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im 43 and had been at this since 1993, played competitively for years and now coach play in practices, play rec games and big games, plus help run/manage the field. ive seen ups downs sideways's itll all come full circle over and over. we actually have more team/gun owners than ever the last 2 seasons. but rentals is down. theres more choices now, with trampoline centers, new zip line and sky walking places. flip flop gyms with foam pits. electric indoor go carts. crazy indoor minigolf,

BUT pb always has its niche appeal. and im trying to get the owner to focus on making it the best place to play paintball period, instead of trying to cover a vast array of activities to appeal to a broader market. Be really good at one thing or ok at a bunch of stuff?

the new mech gear has really helped out for sure to, the enemy and now emek have made the rental marker so much lighter to carry about. as has 50cal for the wee kids.
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Old 05-28-2020, 09:41 AM #9
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Even as a player coming back in you dont know what from what.
This made me laugh! I definitely felt that last Sunday when we played for the first time in many years! We also showed up with an autococker and people were treating us as if we were carrying around an interesting antique.
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Old 05-28-2020, 06:37 PM #10
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It’s not fun for new or occasional players to get the **** shot out of them. Not everyone wants to play tournaments and not everyone wants to be the best. They just wanna go have fun with other people that are on the same level and go shoot each other with some paintballs. Those people do and would spend money but it’s not fun if they get mixed in with current or former tournament players playing walk ons and they don’t have any fun. I see it holding back a lot of people from playing. It’s not so much the price but the experience. I don’t know the fix for that but that’s a problem I feel
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Old 05-28-2020, 07:34 PM #11
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It’s not fun for new or occasional players to get the **** shot out of them. Not everyone wants to play tournaments and not everyone wants to be the best. They just wanna go have fun with other people that are on the same level and go shoot each other with some paint balls. Those people do and would spend money but it’s not fun if they get mixed in with current or former tournament players playing walk ons and they don’t have any fun. I see it holding back a lot of people from playing. It’s not so much the price but the experience. I don’t know the fix for that but that’s a problem I feel
In your case i see woods ball being your best option. There are going to be dicks at every field but for the most part woods ball is less trigger happy. The speed ball field is where the more aggressive players play because you are in a such a tight area. It the woods players are more prone to be picked off from a longer distance. That has just been my experience.

I agree with some of the other comments. If your on a field with a new player dont see it as an opportunity for free kills or blasting. I normally try and go the tagging the bunker route over blasting in the back. Its going to be the new players money that keeps this alive. No need to discourage by lighting up a new guy in the back. Frankly i think your a dick if you do.

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Old 05-29-2020, 12:32 PM #12
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Paint prices.... They kill everyone. The cost of gear is an investment that looks steep in the beginning, but the cost of paint is what kills people in the end. Its like interest on a credit card or loan.... It just sneaks up on you and continually drains you until you can't manage it anymore, unless you are aware of this from the beginning and play magfed/pump
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Old 05-31-2020, 04:10 AM #13
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It's not paint prices but shot count that made the sport expensive. When we all started, it took real effort and a tired trigger finger to shoot through a case of paint back then. Nowaday everyone start on an electro, and it took real discipline to pace yourself on paint to not burn a serious hole in your bank account.

Maybe start beginners on pump and don't rush them onto the electro ramp would help the sport in the long term? Make buy-in hell of a lot cheaper too. It does mean we need a new entry level pump markers though.

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Old 05-31-2020, 07:50 AM #14
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It's not paint prices but shot count that made the sport expensive. When we all started, it took real effort and a tired trigger finger to shoot through a case of paint back then. Nowaday everyone start on an electro, and it took real discipline to pace yourself on paint to not burn a serious hole in your bank account.

Maybe start beginners on pump and don't rush them onto the electro ramp would help the sport in the long term? Make buy-in hell of a lot cheaper too. It does mean we need a new entry level pump markers though.
I agree! When I first started ten years ago, I was rocking a Spyder Xtra. Want a good way to have cheap fun? Use a stacked tube blowback for a day. It makes you more disciplined on first shots and will allow you to conserve paint.
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I agree! When I first started ten years ago, I was rocking a Spyder Xtra. Want a good way to have cheap fun? Use a stacked tube blowback for a day. It makes you more disciplined on first shots and will allow you to conserve paint.
A red Spyder was my first marker as well. All of us pitched in to get it an elctro frame trigger so we could give it to the back player to spray and i went on to a autococker up front. It was either
Accurate= Autococker
Fast= Angel
Little bit of both= Shocker

Now its Fast,accurate,reliable= Most everything! Markers just splitting hairs at this point. Now its about the "feel" lol

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I agree! When I first started ten years ago, I was rocking a Spyder Xtra. Want a good way to have cheap fun? Use a stacked tube blowback for a day. It makes you more disciplined on first shots and will allow you to conserve paint.
A red Spyder was my first marker as well. All of us pitched in to get it an elctro frame trigger so we could give it to the back player to spray and i went on to a autococker up front. It was either
Accurate= Autococker
Fast= Angel
Little bit of both= Shocker

Now its Fast,accurate,reliable= Most everything! Markers just splitting hairs at this point. Now its about the "feel" lol
Glad to see other players in here whos first marker was a Spyder! I never had the pleasure of shooting an autococker, but I'm hoping that changes sooner than later. Never shot a shocker or angel but got to hold both brands of markers in the late 2000's. All I remember about them was that they are heavy! Haha
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Old 06-03-2020, 10:31 PM #17
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Glad to see other players in here whos first marker was a Spyder! I never had the pleasure of shooting an autococker, but I'm hoping that changes sooner than later. Never shot a shocker or angel but got to hold both brands of markers in the late 2000's. All I remember about them was that they are heavy! Haha
I wanna say i got my Spyder from Kmart lol. High pressure gun that threw balls all over the place. It was just a step up from the brass eagles of the time. After playing with it and getting frusterated with the inaccurate shots i knew i wanted to upgrade.
The big box shockers were heavy but they did shoot really smooth. They was one of the few electros that still run on low pressure. The Autococker was so great because it was low pressure and shot really really straight. I won so many snap shooting and 1 on 1 contests with it back in the day. If your looking for a marker that doesn't burn through paint and not big on pumps then get an Autococker. They are fun. Ive been keeping my eye open for a bad *** one i maybe couldn't afford when i was younger lol
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Old 06-07-2020, 08:15 AM #18
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Great observation and I share many of the same sentiments on this thread.

I'm 31 now but when I was 12-14 I remember drooling over those Angel Markers. At the time I didn't have a job and also had limited ways to get money and had other things (skateboards, bicycles) to fight for my non-existent monies. Ultimately I settled on a Spyder but could only ever afford to play a couple games and getting access to CO2 was a bear. Very short but find memories of playing back then.. To this day I still do not know what happened to that gun...

Flash forward to receiving that Trump Check May of 2020- my friend started talking about paintball again and I convinced myself that it was my duty to to save the economy and buy another marker I've always wanted. I ended up getting a new Tippmann Project Salvo with Response Trigger, Cyclone Feeder, Apex 2 barrel. Played a couple games so far and love it. I can finally afford to play now that I have a salary but part of me also wants to get another marker already.

We really only play woodsball with up to 8 people in a back yard so I have a hard time justifying going HPA and looking at those sweet Gtek 170r... That is basically why I am lurking the BST right now.

Anyway, I will be curious to see how paintball is to survive covid. In some respects it is socially distant and people are striving for any form of sport right now with everything closed or shut down. Also curious to see any good ideas come out of this thread!
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First time poster here as well!

I haven't played paintball in a years. I'm in my late 20s and just got back from a field where I rented an A5 or a day and had a blast even though I went just by myself. The A5 doesn't compare to the G3 Spec R I had a few years back. I decided to buy a case of paint ($60) and I remember back in the day I was paying $40 back in the day. Oh well I only shot 500 rounds anyways since I was playing much more conservatively than I used to when I was younger.

The price and small niche community of paintball are what keeps it small. It's like a negative repeating cycle. I'm guessing fields are either barely making enough to stay open so they can't afford to buy advertising or open up shops. I live in the Indy area and there are only fields near by. The closest PB shop is about 2 hrs away. I've also never seen a paintball field or marker commercial. I may have seen paintball on ESPN 2 or something a couple years ago, but that was it.

I think some of these large companies need to invest in advertising to help benefit the fields and small mom and pop shops.
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I would challenge the initial question.

Perhaps the question can be rephrased to 'what can we do to bring paintball back to it's glory years of 2000s?

From my point of view, I don't believe it is possible because:

1. There are a lot more alternatives recreational activities besides paintball now. (E sports, crossfit, indoor rock climbing, axe throwing, escape rooms, season pass to an amusement park). Using escape rooms as an example. If you count the cost per minute of escape rooms to paintball, escape rooms are more expensive her minute and yet the popularity of escape rooms have exploded in the recent years.

2. Cost- If you consider inflation paintball is actually cheaper now then it was back in the early 2000s, I remember playing close to $100 every time I go play ( All the money I get from my part time job was put into paintball) and yet paintball continues to decline.

3. it is not a spectator sport- paintball is fun to play but terrible to watch. The cameras doesn't do a good job capturing the action because there's no single focal point to concentrate on. What they end up doing is showing the entire field which comprise of 10 people that you can barely identify standing behind inflatables and yelling about "food and animals" (direct quote from a friend watching an NXL match for the first time when talking about Doritos and snake bunkers)

In my humble opinion, paintball is experiencing the decline after the hype. Pessimistic speaking, we will most likely never experience the surge of companies and interest we did back in the 2000s. At it's current state, paintball will continue to decline until it finds a balance with demand and supply, until some sort of game changer happens.

If I were to wager what that game changer could be. It would be a continuing reduction of cost and innovations in broadcasting paintball that would attract viewers.

What we can do now as individuals to grow paintball organically -

Be nice to the rentals,
Be nice to the little kids,
Be nice to the parents
Be nice to the rec players that doesn't shooting top of the line markers.

Make them feel welcomed and make them feel that the paintball community is a great community to be a part of

Don't act like a jerk.


Thank you for reading

I should get back to my real job now.....

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My two pennies- All from personal experience and insights with zero research to confirm my claims.

I would challenge the initial question.

Perhaps the question can be rephrased to 'what can we do to bring paintball back to it's glory years of 2000s?

From my point of view, I don't believe it is possible because:

1. There are a lot more alternatives recreational activities besides paintball now. (E sports, crossfit, indoor rockclimbing, axe throwing, escape rooms, season pass to an amusement park). Using escape rooms as an example. If you count the cost per minute of escape rooms to paintball, escape rooms are more expensive her minute and yet the popularity of escape rooms have exploded in the recent years.

2. Cost- If you consider inflation paintball is actually cheaper now then it was back in the early 2000s, I remember playing close to $100 every time I go play ( All the money I get from my part time job was put into paintball) and yet paintball continues to decline.

3. it is not a spectator sport- paintball is fun to play but terrible to watch. The cameras doesn't do a good job capturing the action because there's no single focal point to concentrate on. What they end up doing is showing the entire field which comprise of 10 people that you can barely identify standing behind inflatables and yelling about "food and animals" (direct quote from a friend watching an NXL match for the first time when talking about Doritos and snake bunkers)

In my humble opinion, paintball is experiencing the decline after the hype. Pessimistic speaking, we will most likely never experience the surge of companies and interest we did back in the 2000s. At it's current state, paintball will continue to decline until it finds a balance with demand and supply, until some sort of game changer happens.

If I were to wager what that game changer could be. It would be a continuing reduction of cost and innovations in broadcasting paintball that would attract viewers.

What we can do now as individuals to grow paintball organically -

Be nice to the rentals,
Be nice to the little kids,
Be nice to the parents
Be nice to the rec players that doesn't shootings top of the line markers.

Make them feel welcomed and make them feel that the paintball community is a great community to be a part of

Don't act like a jerk.


Thank you for reading

I should get back to my real job now.....
I enjoyed reading your post. You articulating some issues i was thinking as well. Im with you about the 2k popularity. The companies were innovating markers that left fields of difference between them all. Fast/accurate/slow/inaccurate/rentals was a big difference back then. There was actually a lot of advertising as well. I also agree with you about the spectator issue. Watching now id have to say its pretty good how they set the cameras up but i feel it was too little too late.

As for inflation i agree but disagree with some. As far as gear goes id say that normal gear has gone up a little but marker range is much better. Granted there is markers in the 2k range but you can buy electros in the sub 400 that are very competitive compared to what we shot. For back in the day under 400 was mostly crap and 1200 or so was king due to low pressure vs high/ open an closed bolts ect. As far as paint goes id have to say it hasn't changed much at all im my 20 yrs of playing. Mid range or field paint has always been 60-70 where i live. Consumption of said paint obviously varies due to the change of markers. The mil sim guys coming out now are awesome too. They can justify buying some first strike because they are shooting a lot less BUT entry level buying paint is still a hindrance and most of the paintball gear/guns/paint/gear hardly put any effort into selling their items anymore for new players. That is what ticks me off. They will get the money from experienced players because the vets know what they are looking for but they put 0 effort in promoting new stuff IMO. There used to be mag articles,commercials, ect ect so when the new player comes off the field with a rush and wants to upgrade they have a vast pool of info.

Now? Not much of anything. They sit in their predictable bubble of what they know what will be bought and can maximize profits from it by charging more an more for high end gear. I could be wrong but those honeypot buyers are going to be fading very soon. They will grow up. Have families. The new guys will look at promotion now and think "what is so exciting about this?".

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