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Old 04-26-2017, 02:15 AM #1
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Etha 2 Operating Pressure?

I am just curious is anyone knows what the operating pressure is on the Etha 2. I've looked everywhere and cannot find it. I know the Gtek is at 135. Would it be the same because of the Gamma Core?
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Old 04-26-2017, 05:49 AM #2
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Old 04-26-2017, 09:16 AM #3
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Jack, out of sheer curiosity, how wide is the range of pressures needed to meet various velocities? i.e. 270 fps with good paint to bore match would require less air than 295 fps with an overbore
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Old 04-27-2017, 07:10 AM #4
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Jack, out of sheer curiosity, how wide is the range of pressures needed to meet various velocities? i.e. 270 fps with good paint to bore match would require less air than 295 fps with an overbore
It's really hard to put numbers on it. There are just so many variables. Bore match, ball weight, shell rigidity, atmospheric conditions, altitide, etc etc etc

But as a guide, the Etha2 has a reg operating range of very roughly 100-160psi

People get VERY hung up on operating pressure, for no real reason. What is important is peak breech pressure, which is the pressure that the back of the ball sees when it is fired. Typically that is in the range or 50-60psi depending on the valve mechanism. Yes, a cocker running at 500psi valve pressure still only puts 50psi behind the ball.... A DM running 140psi puts the same 50psi behind the ball. Valve pressure really means nothing. It's just a legacy marketing figure we inherited from the early days of paintball.

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Old 04-27-2017, 07:57 AM #5
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It's really hard to put numbers on it. There are just so many variables. Bore match, ball weight, shell rigidity, atmospheric conditions, altitide, etc etc etc

But as a guide, the Etha2 has a reg operating range of very roughly 100-160psi

People get VERY hung up on operating pressure, for no real reason. What is important is peak breech pressure, which is the pressure that the back of the ball sees when it is fired. Typically that is in the range or 50-60psi depending on the valve mechanism. Yes, a cocker running at 500psi valve pressure still only puts 50psi behind the ball.... A DM running 140psi puts the same 50psi behind the ball. Valve pressure really means nothing. It's just a legacy marketing figure we inherited from the early days of paintball.

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Appreciate the response, though I fear you may be underestimating the collective geekiness of the paintball community
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Old 04-27-2017, 11:42 AM #6
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I await the influx of 'peak breach pressure' gauges lol.

Thanks for the explanation
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Old 08-16-2017, 02:00 PM #7
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Correct.
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If I'm running a Ninja tank on my Etha 2 should i throttle back the bottle pressure to ~500psi?
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Old 08-18-2017, 12:13 AM #8
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If I'm running a Ninja tank on my Etha 2 should i throttle back the bottle pressure to ~500psi?
I saw this on PBRML. Brad had quoted Jack saying that mid to high level pb guns only need to run half the pressure. Its better on the paint and will help quiet the shot. So to answer yes throttle it down.

"I would always recommend that the tank reg be set down to 450-550 psi. That goes for v1 and the v2. This is due to the at pipe and the lv1/gsl pops-to-frame interface. A lower pressure tank out is more reliable on the seals" -Jack Woods.
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Old 08-18-2017, 07:44 AM #9
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I saw this on PBRML. Brad had quoted Jack saying that mid to high level pb guns only need to run half the pressure. Its better on the paint and will help quiet the shot. So to answer yes throttle it down.

"I would always recommend that the tank reg be set down to 450-550 psi. That goes for v1 and the v2. This is due to the at pipe and the lv1/gsl pops-to-frame interface. A lower pressure tank out is more reliable on the seals" -Jack Woods.
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Appreciate the response. I was watching that video which sparked my question to Jack. I wanted to confirm the Etha 2 fell into the "mid to high level pb guns".
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Old 08-18-2017, 01:47 PM #10
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Appreciate the response. I was watching that video which sparked my question to Jack. I wanted to confirm the Etha 2 fell into the "mid to high level pb guns".
No problem! IMO I would put the Etha 2 in the mid to high level pb gun. It has the features of a high end gun, but with a cheaper body to make it a lower price point. But of course in a company standpoint, they wont really disclose that its a mid to high level because they still have to sell all the other guns above the etha2.

I have never seen a mid level gun shoot like a laser, its so accurate and consistent. You always see mid level guns to be somewhat accurate but not this consistent. I couldn't believe it too but after watching Madmans videos chrono test on the gtek its going to be the same as the etha2.

But I see to your point it would be nice for jack to chime in
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Old 08-18-2017, 02:44 PM #11
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With modern day guns what should we consider consistent? I feel like last weekend when I played my Etha 2 chrono'd from 260fps to 280fps before the first match.
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Old 08-18-2017, 05:48 PM #12
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Madman here did this.. Consistent in terms of lets say 10 chrono tests then getting the average and median point and seeing how much difference is the average chrono test results vs the median from high to low. That's how you determine how consistent it is.

On a gamma core, its not that much difference.. now compare that to an axe and you will see the difference is higher.

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Old 08-29-2017, 06:16 AM #13
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If the gun is functioning as it should (nothing broken or worn or assembled incorrectly), consistency comes down to paint. Simple fact.

People spend far too long looking for issues with their equipment when the reality is that it's what they are trying to shoot, or even the measurement device, that is to blame.
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Old 08-29-2017, 02:32 PM #14
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This is my first post as I am new to forum and the sport. I just purchased 2 Etha 2s (1 for my son and one for myself). I called planet eclipse in Rhode Island and was informed ideal operating pressure is 450-500psi on the etha 2. So I'll shim the ninja tanks accordingly...
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Old 08-30-2017, 05:48 AM #15
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Hi, and welcome! To PBNation, Paintball, and the Planet Eclipse Family!

Any questions at all, just throw them up here in the forum.

I'm Jack Wood and I'm the designer of all the Planet Eclipse paintball markers. If I can't help you with something to do with one of our guns, nobody can

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Old 01-30-2018, 12:07 AM #16
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Hi there, I was wondering about lowering the pressure on my Ninja tank. Did you end up lowering the output pressure on your Pro V2 regs? If so, to which pressure setting? Did you experience any issues?

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Old 01-30-2018, 05:06 AM #17
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It is fine to remove all the shims from the Pro V2 reg to run it at it's lowest output. This should be in the region of 450psi but should be checked on a pressure gauge.

The Etha2 will work perfectly at this pressure.

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It is fine to remove all the shims from the Pro V2 reg to run it at it's lowest output. This should be in the region of 450psi but should be checked on a pressure gauge.

The Etha2 will work perfectly at this pressure.

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What about SLP of about 275 to 300 psi? Is that too low?
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What about SLP of about 275 to 300 psi? Is that too low?
No, as long as you’ve got a good tank reg that can keep up.
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Old 02-25-2018, 06:49 PM #20
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I just bought a etha 2 , and have a ninja 68/4500 with the pro V2. Do i need to regualte the pressure or is it fine how it comes?
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Old 02-26-2018, 06:55 AM #21
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I just bought a etha 2 , and have a ninja 68/4500 with the pro V2. Do i need to regualte the pressure or is it fine how it comes?
Hi,

I would advise taking all the shims out of your Pro V2. It will make it easier to engage the POPS on the Etha2 and also put less straian on the regulator in the gun.

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