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Old 04-02-2015, 07:34 PM #1
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Two Fat Guys' GOG / SP Ion Upgrades! - Mechanical Kit - Closed Bolt Kit - V3 Bolt

******************************* 5/28/15 - We are HALTING sales of the V3 Ion Bolt. During this time, mechanical kits without bolts as well as closed bolt kits, etc are still for sale.

We are seeing sporadic issues where the 2x7 core oring is blowing off. We originally had one report of this out of many sold. In the past few days, we have had quite a few more pop up per a lesser amount of actual bolts sold. This is very concerning to all involved. We are have been looking at alternative seals since we had this singular report and are now simultaneously testing a new core piece which should help rectify the issue, regardless of us finding a correct seal for the 2x7 on the V3 bolt. We know that this is an inconvenience to our customers who have not only purchased a bolt from us, but who are looking to purchase a bolt from us. After a three hour long skype call, Jonathan and I believe that this is the best course of action to limit the amount of problem bolts out there to make it easier to rectify, but also because we will NOT knowingly sell a product which does not preform to our standards. If anyone has an issue with their V3 bolt, please post in one of our threads or PM Me.



Welcome to the Two Fat Guys' Smart Parts Ion / Vibe and GOG Marker Upgrade Thread!

We currently offer the following products:

Mechanical Kit for the Smart Parts Ion, Ion XE, Epiphany, EOS, SP8, SP1, Vibe, and GOG Markers.

- This is a drop drop-in kit that includes everything needed to convert your regular electronic marker into a mechanical one.
- No modifications to the marker are necessary besides cutting air hose to fit and installing the bracket and valve.
- May be purchased with or without bolt
Full kit includes: valve mounting bracket, valve, tee fitting, two set screws, airline, and a dual tail oringed bolt (if you purchase the full kit).

Closed Bolt Kits for the Ion (classic) (XE/Vibe/GOG is in the works)

- This turns your open bolt marker into a closed bolt one (think of an autococker) which fires from a closed position.
- This engine is designed with efficiency in mind and operates at roughly 190psi for 1,600-2,300 effective shots per 68/45 depending on paint to bore match, if you have a QEV installed, etc.
- Requires a modifications to the can and stem of the valving in order to have hose completely internal, but these simple modifications may be done with a dremel and a 10-32 tap. Otherwise, a hole needs to be drilled in the body of the Ion.
- May be operated mechanically or electronically (with the eyes off or with a board that supports closed bolt eye logic)
Full kit includes: Bolt, Can, Powertube, Piston, Y Fitting, airline

*For more in-depth information on the CB kit, please see this thread *Click Me!*

Upgraded V3 Dual Tail Oringed Bolt for the Ion (classic) (XE/Vibe/GOG boltstop is in testing)

-2x Complete Rebuild Kit included.
~40 FPS increase over our V2. [Our V2 was 30-40 FPS+ over stock]
This is the same bolt we use in our Mechanical Ion Mod kits.
-- These currently only work for CLASSIC Ions as the backstop is different for GOG/Vibe/XE markers.
Bolt includes: Bolt head, bolt stalk, bolt stop.
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*Ion Mech Mod Kit*
-Older V2 Bolt Pictured; Current V3 model Ships with purchases.



*Vibe/SP1/GOG Mech Mod Kit*

-Older V2 Bolt Pictured; Current V3 model Ships with purchases.



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Two Fat Guys V3 Ion Bolt.
~40 FPS increase over V2 bolt.
Complete 2x Rebuild kit is included with each bolt.
Currently only work in classic Ion based markers. XE/Vibe bolt-stops are being tested!



[size="6"]Mechanical Kit Manual in PDF Download *click!*
Updated Revision 2 Manual with Ion and Vibe/SP1/GOG installation instructions


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Pricing and Payment:

Mechanical Kit w/ V3 Bolt: $70 USD.
Mechanical Kit WITHOUT V3 Bolt: $55 USD.
Closed Bolt Kit: $75 USD.
---- CB kit replaces need for bolt in mech kit
V3 Dual Tail Oringed Ion Bolt: $30 USD.



The prices above INCLUDE shipping within the ENTIRE USA (and PR >;p).

International orders ARE welcome!
PLEASE CONTACT ME FOR A QUOTE!


*PLEASE NOTE THE FOLLOWING ABOUT INT'L ORDERS*
Shipping is verrrryyyy expensive if you want tracking.
THEREFORE, we will ship via USPS First Class International Mail which does NOT have a tracking option!
We will NOT be held accountable for these packages!
If you wish to pay the extra amount for USPS Priority Mail or Express Mail,
make sure to ask us Deathwish_DW for a quote!

The fastest, easiest, and safest way to pay is via PayPal.

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A Note About Future Revisions/Upgrades:


All kits will be shipped with the latest revision of our parts, bolts, brackets, etc. If a kit is ready to be shipped but we are only a few days away from having the next revision ready, we will hold the kit until we have the next step up and at that time It will be shipped.

Between revisions, the new and "upgrade" parts will be sold for a nominal fee. They are NOT necessary! Your kit WILL work perfectly ok without them, but we may find a way to make a better bracket or source better bolts, etc and this is what the sale of revision parts is for.



[size="6"]As always, we'd like to thank everyone who has shown us support.
You guys are awesome!
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Old 04-02-2015, 07:39 PM #2
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Do you offer to install at all? Would be interested in the closed bolt system as I run a pump modded ion, would it work for this to essentially make it a standard pump and closed bolt? Would like the upgraded bolt as well if possible or if it can work that way
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Old 04-02-2015, 08:01 PM #3
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Do you offer to install at all? Would be interested in the closed bolt system as I run a pump modded ion, would it work for this to essentially make it a standard pump and closed bolt? Would like the upgraded bolt as well if possible or if it can work that way
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Do you offer to install at all? Would be interested in the closed bolt system as I run a pump modded ion, would it work for this to essentially make it a standard pump and closed bolt? Would like the upgraded bolt as well if possible or if it can work that way
Let me make a few conceptual sketches and I'll get back to you on the closed bolt pump. A few different ways to accomplish this.
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Old 04-04-2015, 04:36 PM #5
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^ boltstop modified for XE/Vibe/GOG use.
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Do you have any pics or vids showing the closed bolt kit installed? Curious to see if i could combine this with another mod id liek to do. Im assuming this wouldnt work with custom BOB style bodies, correct?
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Do you have any pics or vids showing the closed bolt kit installed? Curious to see if i could combine this with another mod id liek to do. Im assuming this wouldnt work with custom BOB style bodies, correct?
Outside of more information contained in this thread: https://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?t=3229000

I do not believe that I do at the moment.

It really depends on what you define as BOB.
If it's a lucky, it depends on the backcap / firing insert if I remember correctly. If it is a BOB which uses the stock can, you might be able to modify the rear donut / BOB portion in a way to make it work internally and correctly. We would have to see what body you want to use specifically.

I will PM you the above as well.
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mech ion sounds interesting, reading the description though I'm slightly confused. If you could clarify that would be great.

In the first paragraph you state " No modifications to the marker are necessary besides cutting air hose to fit and installing the bracket and valve. "

Then in the 2nd paragraph it says there's some drilling needing to do
"Requires a modifications to the can and stem of the valving in order to have hose completely internal, but these simple modifications may be done with a dremel and a 10-32 tap. Otherwise, a hole needs to be drilled in the body of the Ion."
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mech ion sounds interesting, reading the description though I'm slightly confused. If you could clarify that would be great.

In the first paragraph you state " No modifications to the marker are necessary besides cutting air hose to fit and installing the bracket and valve. "

Then in the 2nd paragraph it says there's some drilling needing to do
"Requires a modifications to the can and stem of the valving in order to have hose completely internal, but these simple modifications may be done with a dremel and a 10-32 tap. Otherwise, a hole needs to be drilled in the body of the Ion."
The mech kit is a drop in - no modifications needed.

If you want to use the closed bolt kit with everything ran internally, you will need to cut a portion of the donut on on the firing can off so that you can route the rear hose down through the bottom of the body and into the frame.
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two questions...

one.. do you happen to have a two way split instead of the three way pictured with the greenish hose ?

and does the hose pictured fit the solenoid on the sp1 like the original hose fits as seen here.
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How does the weight of the v3 bolt compare to the firebolt and has it been tested in electros?
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two questions...

one.. do you happen to have a two way split instead of the three way pictured with the greenish hose ?

and does the hose pictured fit the solenoid on the sp1 like the original hose fits as seen here.
I have lucky banjos fittings?
What are you trying to do?

The hose should fit.

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I do not hav a firebolt to weight it against.

It has been tested in electronic markers successfully.
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I have lucky banjos fittings?
What are you trying to do?

The hose should fit.
Basicly looking for a two way valve instead of a three wayvvalve as seen in the pic wit the pink ion body and green hose.. Looking for an L shape I guess.. Trying to exstend the hose on my sp1 to a reg mounted on the grip frame instead of the forward grip
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Would the closed bolt kit work with an ion xe?
We have a kit which does work with the XE, but Jonathan needs to get it re-anodized as he had to make a modification to ensure everything worked properly. I am unsure as of right now where he is in terms of progress on it, but I will ask him when I speak with him tomorrow.
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Any updates on the XE bolt? Cash in hand and eager to try it out.
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Any updates on the XE bolt? Cash in hand and eager to try it out.
Other than we know it works, no.

I will be home from school tomorrow (until next semester), and we will be going over stock / future projects, including getting boltstops modified/made.
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Other than we know it works, no.

I will be home from school tomorrow (until next semester), and we will be going over stock / future projects, including getting boltstops modified/made.
Great, thanks. I'll probably take one of each when the time comes.

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