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Old 09-05-2008, 01:30 PM #1
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Moderator 3rd party service for paintball equipment.

If you have questions, please read the first two posts completely before sending me your shipping info. There are pricing examples in the second post.

Here's the TLDR up front:
  • Both parties agree to a deal and post exactly what they expect to receive in this thread.
  • The gun(s)/gear are sent to me and the fees/shipping are paid.
  • I look them over.
  • If anything is not as described, I consult with both parties and see if an agreement can be reached.
  • If an agreement can't be reached, the person who didn't deliver as promised is responsible for all shipping and fees.
  • I ship the gear priority mail. If you want insurance, or signature confirmation please make sure you pay for it.

How to Proceed:
  • Work out a deal and make sure both parties agree to shipping 3rd party to me.
  • Post in this thread with your side of the deal and make sure they do the same. Post all relevant details like condition, color and upgrades.
  • PM me your complete contact information and I'll send you my address.
  • Ship me your marker/items and save the tracking number.* Include the fee and shipping as well as a copy of your contact info.
  • You can paypal me your payment/shipping but please include your address so I can print the shipping label.
  • I obviously will not ship until both parties have sent me what was agreed on. If there are any discrepancies, I will work with both parties to resolve them.



Pricing: - most items will be shot as part of testing unless specified otherwise.
$15 - inspection of a marker (this includes shooting over a chrono)
$10 - inspection of a loader, mask or most any other common paintball item
$15 - inspection of a tank that includes filling it (you will have to wait until I visit a field).
$20 - inspection of multiple items (example: hopper, marker, tank and mask all shipping to one place). Tank will only be visually inspected, not filled.


Possible Additional Costs
$10 - Per each extra trip to the Post Office (like when your item is not there or you didn't pay enough to ship.) *
$10 - Please add $10 if you need the gun shipped faster than my typical 48 to 72 hours.
$10 - If have to take tools to your gun for any reason. This includes installing a battery.
$10 - Unnecessary pictures. I'll take pictures of damage or to answer questions, but pictures for no reason or because the buyer forgot to ask questions cost extra.
$10 - Shipping out of the country (since I'll have to make a special trip to the post office to ship to you).**
$10 - to meet someone here in St Louis anywhere aside from at the field I happen to be playing at that weekend.
$25 - if I have to perform any sort of repair. ***




Please note: shipping is not included. You must also pay for the actual cost of me shipping the item to its new owner using USPS Priority Mail. That is usually around $18 for a single marker with only $50 of insurance. More insurance costs more. Shipping more than one thing usually costs more. If it costs one party $32.75 to ship to me, then expect that to be a similar price for me to ship it to its new owner.

I only do deals for paintball equipment unless prior arrangements are made.

Shipping is not included. Since I send everything with tracking or Delivery Confirmation (even money orders), you need to make sure to include enough to cover those expenses. Usually $18 will cover it for just anything that weighs less than 5 lbs or fits in a medium USPS flat rate box but insurance is more. If it is a cash/marker transaction, there is only one set of inspection fees but it will cost $7.50 for me to forward a money order since it will be sent priority. If the marker comes with a bottle, loader or more, it usually will need more than $18. If you want it overnighted, insurance, signature delivery, something shipped to another country** or any other additional service, please let me know. You will need to pay for it.

I expect batteries to be installed and have enough charge for testing or there will be a $5 charge. I will also notify the buyer that there is a chance the marker is defective and draining batteries.

Products are expected to be working and in the condition as described. This is not a repair service. I will attempt to mediate the deal when things do not show up as described. Short videos can even be taken.

If a product is significantly not as described and the buyer (or person receiving the defective item in trade) does not want it because of the discrepancy, the person who sent the defective item is expected to pay for all testing and shipping to return all the items even if the other party originally agreed to pay fees. This needs to happen before the items are returned to the person who sent the item that did not arrive as described. It is meant to protect the party who did their part.

If you want feedback, wait until the deal is 100% over and use this thread to leave me feedback. I will return feedback, and it will clearly say 3rd party.

I can also inspect products in the STL area at the field. PM to make arrangements.

The $15 fee includes me inspecting one marker, gassing it up and shooting it over a chrono to check for reasonably consistent velocity, no leaks and basic marker and eye function.

I generally ship Monday to Friday. I try to ship markers the following day after I get them, but if you need it for that weekend, please plan accordingly or chip in $10 to make sure it becomes a priority. I will generally print the packing slip the night before and email you the details. Please check the address right away. Please let me know when items have arrived here so I can make sure to pick them up from the PO Box. I do not check it daily. Please do not send cash through the mail. Use a Money Order made out to me for fees and a Money Order made out to the other party if you are purchasing something.


Do not expect me to guess what you think the value of the package is, you need to be very specific if you even want it insured at all. I'll do what you want, but you have to pay for it.

* Do not send me anything without a tracking or Delivery Confirmation number. Do not ask me to go to the Post Office until you have tracked your item and made sure it is there. If you send me the PO and your item is not there, there's a $10 fine per time (unless the tracking number said it actually was there and the PO made a mistake, then you are obviously off the hook).

** - I can't calculate shipping in advance because I don't have the size and weight of the package. You do however, so you should be able to do that and pay accordingly. You owe the actual shipping cost plus the fee. There is an additional $20 charge to ship out of the country since I have to physically go to the post office, stand in line and fill out forms. And I hate it. But I am willing to do it for you.

*** - $25 - any type of repair or o-ring replacement to make the marker work is $25 in addition to the inspection fees. This is not a repair service. I expect guns and equipment to have batteries installed and be ready to go. That means in either ramp or semi (not training mode) and shooting ~280 fps. If you send me a broken marker, you most likely will be paying all fees out of pocket and getting your marker back after you pay shipping as well. On rare occasions I will help with minor repairs, but there is an up front $25 fee that does not include parts and comes with no guarantees. Please only send me working guns. If I need to take tools to your marker for any reason more complicated than installing a battery, there is a $25 flat fee.
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Old 09-23-2008, 08:38 PM #2
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Examples of pricing:

Trade: marker for another marker
$15 each that includes shooting the marker over a chrono
Each party needs to also include shipping to send to the new owner. (Generally $18 + insurance.)


Buying marker through paypal
$15 from either party
Plus shipping to send to the new owner. (Generally $18 + insurance)
Once the marker has been tested, paypal payment can be sent direct from buyer to seller.


Buying marker with a Money Order
$15 from either party for inspecting the marker
Plus shipping to send to the new owner. (Generally $18 + insurance)
Plus $5 to send the Money Order priority mail to its new owner.


Trade hopper for hopper: (same applies for barrels, masks, whatever)
$10 each for inspection that involves shooting it on a marker.
Each party needs to also include shipping to send to the new owner.


Buying hopper through paypal:
$10 from either party
Plus shipping to send to the new owner.
Once the hopper has been tested, paypal payment can be sent direct from buyer to seller.


Buying hopper with a Money Order
$10 from either party
Plus shipping to send to the hopper to its new owner.
Plus $7.50 to send the Money Order priority mail to its new owner.


How to pay
I do accept paypal. Please do not send cash through the mail. Use a Money Order made out to me for fees and a Money Order made out to the other party if you are purchasing something.


This is not a repair service.
I expect guns and equipment to have batteries installed and be ready to go. If you send me a broken marker, you most likely will be paying all fees out of pocket and getting your marker back after you pay shipping as well. On rare occasions I will help with minor repairs, but there is an up front $25 fee that does not include parts and comes with no guarantees. Please only send me working guns.
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Old 10-07-2008, 05:34 PM #3
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I used John as a third party for buying an 07 ego from Revolution13. The deal went really well. John was really easy to talk to and answered any question i had for him. I would definitely use him as a third party again. Thanks John.
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Old 10-08-2008, 07:11 PM #4
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Old 10-08-2008, 07:19 PM #5
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pm me how much u would charge me for the deal i described to you before.
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Old 10-15-2008, 08:30 PM #6
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Old 10-27-2008, 03:06 PM #7
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so if there is only 1 gun involved, is it $15 dollars? pm me
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Old 10-27-2008, 03:07 PM #8
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so if there is only 1 gun involved, is it $15 dollars? pm me
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Old 12-10-2008, 07:59 PM #9
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Old 12-17-2008, 07:42 PM #11
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Old 12-22-2008, 06:30 PM #12
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so 30 total for 2 guns? we ship to you we eat that shipment to you and the 30 will cover you shipping to us? pm me please. =D
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Old 12-22-2008, 07:53 PM #13
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so 30 total for 2 guns? we ship to you we eat that shipment to you and the 30 will cover you shipping to us? pm me please. =D
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$30 to thoroughly inspect two markers. That's $15 per marker.

Shipping is not included.
$15 to thoroughly check out each marker or $10 to make sure the marker exists. Then $15 to ship it to its new owner.
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Old 01-01-2009, 11:19 PM #14
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3rd party question;
Planning on having an ego & hopper sent to you that I wish to purchase from another pbn member.
Do I send you the money order or do you just verify the items and give me the ok to send the money order direct to seller before forwarding the items on to me?
This is a much needed service by the way and I appreciate you offering it.

Sorry if I was supposed to start a new thread instead of hj'g this one.

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Old 01-01-2009, 11:21 PM #15
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I can do it either way. You'll get your gun slightly faster if you send the money order to me (but in his name). If you both have paypal, don't send any funds. I'll just confirm when everything is right and you can pay direct right then.
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i might need one im trading a mini+itouch+vlocity for a nxt shocker
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John,

Hi this is Jake you told me to post here with what we are shipping to you for the 3rd party. We just need you to make sure that everything in the packages are in them. I am trading this gun to gun hand for his e-mag.






My dragon e cocker. We are going to be shipping Monday the 12th. I will give you the tracking numbers and will be getting insurance.

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Trade with egorocker111

I'm sending my Olive/Champagne DM9 to you for a third party trade with egorocker111 for his Hurricanes edition SL74.
Here is what I am sending:
-Gun in new condition
-two piece ultralite barrel (matching color)
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Please verify everything stated above (gun in working order, and everything is included as stated.)
egorocker111 is paying for third party fees as agreed. Pics below:







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So, if I did the basic inspection for a gun would I send you $15 or $25?
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$10 - inspection
$15 - shipping
$25 total
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Mag shot once when aired up even though it was turned off.
Velocity is quite low (could simply need a HP valve on tank)
At minimum it needs a battery - it does not currently shoot with every trigger pull.
battery drain could have been due to shipping in the cold.
Eyes light up and function.


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Cocker has no freak insert.
No macroline included.
leaks when aired up. (could have been due to shipping in cold)
Leak faded as marker was fired repeatedly.
Trigger sticks back badly (most likely magnet placement)
Did not load a paintball with every cycle.
Battery not installed in shipping.
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