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Old 10-08-2009, 04:55 PM #316
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I agree with everything you said but...damn.

Public Relations, huh? Way to rep. your company.

One of the reasons I think paintball is struggling is that so many people in the industry act like total dicks to their customers.

Call me crazy.
Sorry, I got frustrated. And no, it probably is not right... I apologize. I am not a dick to customers by any means. I just get fed up by people who always go "I Know.. trust me.. I know"

Those are the people who mess with the sport and industry I love so much. I dont go off very often. But when people think they know based on little knowledge they have really pisses me off.
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Old 10-08-2009, 04:56 PM #317
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It is a lot bigger than when I started also, but on the other hand it is much much smaller over the last few years and that is a trend that is not going to stop in the foreseeable future.
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Old 10-08-2009, 05:00 PM #318
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Old 10-08-2009, 05:07 PM #319
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Yeah Sean but when you go off it's entertaining

Somebodies got to put people who think making anything quality is easy and that it should be sold at raw material costs in their place. The world doesn't work like, paintball shouldn't either, but it's what happens when the demographics dip into the teens and self entitlement takes hold.
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Old 10-08-2009, 05:17 PM #320
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Thanks for understanding guys, I appreciate it...

So, based on $6000 profit.

$980 goes to the tax board based on 7%
$3,000 goes to the owner for his pay.. $36,000 a year is not huge by any means.
$1500 for store
$500 in utilities and insurance...

Already at $6000. And there are even more. Paintball stores do NOT make a lot of money by any means. If there are more players, then they make more. More players will drive down the cost. Do I think paintball stores and fields "rape" customers? No. They are trying to make a living off what they love. I know so many friends that own stores that have closed over the years who have had their lives ruined... only a handful of dealers have money to burn.
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Old 10-08-2009, 05:32 PM #321
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Most OTHER retail industries work on 50% margins. Paintball works at 32-39% which is much lower then MOST OTHER INDUSTRIES.
And you know we don't even get that on most items. Most of the companies are working at getting better margins for the dealers finally.

Not exactly sure why paintball seems to be a industry that the customers think the dealers should break even and let their familes starve.

Good to see Sean chime in.
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Old 10-08-2009, 05:42 PM #322
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And you know we don't even get that on most items. Most of the companies are working at getting better margins for the dealers finally.

Not exactly sure why paintball seems to be a industry that the customers think the dealers should break even and let their familes starve.

Good to see Sean chime in.
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Old 10-18-2009, 03:43 PM #323
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big fuss ?

been a while that me and my wife wishes to start in paintball , with long reading and information gathering i came to the conclusion that with the economy status any change is just a matter that keep doing profits.

wise thing to do is to wait..
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Old 10-18-2009, 04:39 PM #324
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It is a lot bigger than when I started also, but on the other hand it is much much smaller over the last few years and that is a trend that is not going to stop in the foreseeable future.
We have already peaked and are now on the decline. So you have seen the sport grow peak and now decline. Thats overall but in the fine print we have seen a resurgence of woodsball.
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Old 10-19-2009, 02:17 AM #325
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Don't be a wuss. Eat paintballs and live in a house made out of airball bunkers.
LMFAO! As long as u can play, who ****ing cares!
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Old 05-27-2017, 09:32 PM #327
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I don't know a whole lot about .50 cal paintball other than kids are getting a kick out of it. How much less does it sting?
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Old 10-30-2018, 02:02 PM #328
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.50 cal

eh im sure it wont become a giant new thing but hey its great for young kids getting into the sport
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Old 01-10-2019, 06:11 PM #329
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Old 05-25-2019, 10:13 PM #330
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Why is this thread still alive

Why is this thread still alive and on the home page? It get's one nonsense post a year (like this one) and no members on the site care about 50 cal. The only use for 50 cal is to introduce kids to paintball and if they get serious enough to start reading pbnation then they will be serious enough to move up to 68.

50 cal is a way to capture more players. If they are already on here than they are captured.

Only reason to keep this alive is if fields are using it to discuss how they make 50 cal work on their field. They are not doing this.

50 cal is boring. I say we close this thread.
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Old 05-26-2019, 10:14 AM #331
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Why is this thread still alive and on the home page? It get's one nonsense post a year (like this one) and no members on the site care about 50 cal. The only use for 50 cal is to introduce kids to paintball and if they get serious enough to start reading pbnation then they will be serious enough to move up to 68.

50 cal is a way to capture more players. If they are already on here than they are captured.

Only reason to keep this alive is if fields are using it to discuss how they make 50 cal work on their field. They are not doing this.

50 cal is boring. I say we close this thread.
It's probably pinned because it has the original press release in it. Why do you want it to disappear? It's part of history.

We charge the same for .50 cal and .68 cal and get more people choosing .50 cal these days. So in a way, it was the next big thing.
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