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Old 03-18-2020, 11:46 AM #64
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I just bought a emek! I cant wait to put this in mine.


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Old 03-18-2020, 01:25 PM #65
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Does anybody have experience with both this hAir valve and the bang switch? How do they compare?


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Old 03-18-2020, 05:49 PM #66
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I've shot both.

I had a bang switch in my gun before the hAir. I thought it made the trigger slightly shorter but not much/any lighter.

Sitting here comparing my two Emeks, the hAir feels lighter and it is easy to set the trigger pull silly short. With the Bang Switch, we had to make sure to set the trigger longer (especially with travel after the pull) because otherwise we ran into issues with the gun failing.
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Old 03-18-2020, 05:49 PM #67
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Thanks! It's a favorite. I just wish I hadn't cut the chin strap off 5+ years ago!
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Old 03-18-2020, 05:55 PM #68
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@john Did you adjust or shorten the trigger after the installation? Any information on this or is it just a drop and play kind of thing.

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Old 03-18-2020, 06:21 PM #69
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I was able to drop the valve in and not adjust the trigger at all and the Emek worked great. Then I added the aftermarket trigger and the gun still worked great. Then I adjusted the trigger significantly shorter because I knew people would want a shorter trigger pull for the video. I could have easily adjusted the trigger even shorter.
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Old 03-18-2020, 10:55 PM #70
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after all these years.. please make the hAir trigger for the automag!

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Old 03-19-2020, 05:27 AM #71
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Thatís good ****, I really like it. Any way it can compromise the reliability of the gun?
I can try and answer this:

There is no reason why this valve should effect the reliability of the drivetrain or the regulator. The rest of the gun that the valve attaches to will work as it should, and be as reliable as it is with the stock 3-way.

Obviously I cannot comment on the reliability of the valve itself, as I haven't endurance tested it myself, but I trust Colin/Deadlywind to make a good product (They make all our FL barrel fronts, after all) and if any issues were to arise, to sort them out. He cares deeply about his products and his name. It's why we work with him. He has very much the same ethos and work/business ethic as us. He's good people.

I certainly have no issue with people using this product, in our product. Hopefully that is comfort enough for most.
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Old 03-19-2020, 06:36 AM #72
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I can try and answer this:

There is no reason why this valve should effect the reliability of the drivetrain or the regulator. The rest of the gun that the valve attaches to will work as it should, and be as reliable as it is with the stock 3-way.

Obviously I cannot comment on the reliability of the valve itself, as I haven't endurance tested it myself, but I trust Colin/Deadlywind to make a good product (They make all our FL barrel fronts, after all) and if any issues were to arise, to sort them out. He cares deeply about his products and his name. It's why we work with him. He has very much the same ethos and work/business ethic as us. He's good people.

I certainly have no issue with people using this product, in our product. Hopefully that is comfort enough for most.
Wow. nice endorsement.. My admiration of PE grows with every post like this. Jack... you are a true ambassador of your company. I hope that they appreciate all you do. I have been a DW supporter since the beginning. Just recently became a PE fan because of the emek platform.

Cant wait till this afternoon when my valve arrives.
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Old 03-19-2020, 11:38 AM #73
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would love to see this go head to head with the adrenaline CVO trigger.

theres a vid of a sponsored player shooting so fast, the ref immediately thought he was using an electro and said NO POINT! haha
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Old 03-19-2020, 02:26 PM #74
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lol

Here come the mech series rules changes. Some things never change and history always repeats itself lol.
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Old 03-19-2020, 03:46 PM #75
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^Are they going to open up every Planet Eclipse Marker and make sure they don’t have this inside?

That would take forever...

Plus, the new CS2 mechanical Trigger Frame will also be super fast.

I wonder how that will work?

It’s not aftermarket but not stock either...
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Old 03-19-2020, 08:19 PM #76
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Here come the mech series rules changes. Some things never change and history always repeats itself lol.
It would have already happened. As long as it's single trigger and not reactive it's fine.
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Old 03-19-2020, 09:39 PM #77
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@John I just got done watching your video testing the new valve and I do really think you did a good job showcasing the part. While I don't personally own an Emek, I will say you showcased its potential! It looked very smooth to shoot and I'm sure will add to the markers popularity.
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Old 03-19-2020, 09:48 PM #78
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@John I just got done watching your video testing the new valve and I do really think you did a good job showcasing the part. While I don't personally own an Emek, I will say you showcased its potential! It looked very smooth to shoot and I'm sure will add to the markers popularity.
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Old 03-19-2020, 10:35 PM #79
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Wanna see it with an lvl or faster loader!
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Old 03-19-2020, 11:05 PM #80
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Since the gun doesn't have eyes and there were no blank or missed shots, a faster loader wouldn't have done anything in this instance.
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Old 03-20-2020, 12:07 AM #81
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@John I just got done watching your video testing the new valve and I do really think you did a good job showcasing the part. While I don't personally own an Emek, I will say you showcased its potential! It looked very smooth to shoot and I'm sure will add to the markers popularity.

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Old 03-20-2020, 11:13 AM #82
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Mine showed up about an hour ago. Popped it in my M170r, adjusted the trigger screws a bit and the marker is off and humming.

This valve allows the trigger to be set very, very short and the pull is extremely lightweight. If you are looking for more speed from your Emek or M170r, this will get you there.
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they have been on sale for weeks now. go to the deadly wind website and they are there.
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