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Old 01-31-2017, 12:28 PM #43
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I've met Simon a bunch of times, living in NJ helps. He is always happy to chat about anything paintball related and enjoys what he does. I cant imagine how many times he's told some of the same stories to people again and again but he has the same great attitude when telling it to someone new.

An all around great guy.
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Old 01-31-2017, 12:57 PM #44
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Awesome interview 👍 more of these😊

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I can't put into words how excited I was to see the front page today.

Excellent interview.

It is depressing that most of your patents are owned by others. I would say that you would put those royalties to better use.

Thank you for taking the time to answer those questions.

The day you stop innovating for paintball will be a sad, sad, horrible, awful depressing day.

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Old 01-31-2017, 02:40 PM #47
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The safety system on every co2 and compressed air valve was my invention and something I tested pretty heavily. That's probably the most important thing I ever did. Watching co2 tanks fly off into the field behind NPS while doing so was pretty fun. That one invention means it's almost impossible for someone to play paintball nowadays without using a product I have been involved in. They'd have to be using a 12g powered gun (of which I have made a few) and not be using any of the 7 goggle systems I have been responsible for, or any of the guns/barrels/hoppers I have made.
I like Simon, a lot, but the next kid that dies from a lethal separation of a tank and reg is the fault of him and the people on the ASTM committee that chose this 'solution'.

For political reasons alone, this flawed design which relies on 100% QC of the tank and bottle threads was implemented in this industry.
One small incorrect number pad entry on a cnc, and the elongated 5/8-18 and the vent grooves are rendered useless.


A solution was presented that was infallible, cheap, could be integrated in bottle liner manufacturing. It was whole heartedly endorsed, in writing, by Luxfer and Gayston the leading bottle manufacturers at the time. A thrust limiting restriction built into every tank, and the design was able to be retro fit into existing tanks, was presented at the same time by PMIs rep.
A 0.06 insert to retrofit.

This could have put all lethal liability, legally, on the tank manufacturers. It was the right solution.


This issue was a primary factor in me wanting to leave paintball and never come back. And the reason I stayed involved under the radar for so very long, trying to prevent cost from over riding safety.

How can something so black and white be corrupted?

Unfortunately this is something I just can't let go. Most of the people I grew up playing with now have kids playing- and the lowest person on the manufacturing totem pole half a world away is capable of injecting a bad part into the playing population. And one more death is one too many after the two deaths, and a near miss that set these changes in motion.

Dresser from pbn, Lucas from Valken, Eurick from FS and Ceranski from GI all were apart of the staff when I made the thrust insert/modification. I am not selling fiction here. I have no axe to grind, I'd still rather see paintball succeed than continue to struggle.


To brag about something so flawed, I truly wanted to vomit while reading the above. I truly believe it is the worst thing Simon was ever a part of.

We stopped everything to address this, when it was time to present I was so confident of the clarity I was not apart of the presentation and most people have no idea who I am which is just how I want it.
But god ****ing damn it you are going to kill someone.
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Old 01-31-2017, 07:18 PM #49
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Evil.One, what do you suggest is done differently, in terms of tank safety?
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Nice theft of IP without proper photo credit.
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Only after sending John a PM was the stolen IP removed. Even then it was only removed from the initial post. The IP was still hosted elsewhere. A second message was required to have it removed from the server. Even with a photographer on staff it seems IP isn't safe here. Be wary my fellow photographers, DCMA 1999 doesn't seem to exist here.
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Only after sending John a PM was the stolen IP removed. Even then it was only removed from the initial post. The IP was still hosted elsewhere. A second message was required to have it removed from the server. Even with a photographer on staff it seems IP isn't safe here. Be wary my fellow photographers, DCMA 1999 doesn't seem to exist here.
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http://www.dbnpaintball.com/gijoe/ If you want a hi-res of one PM me the number and I'll email it to you. The hi-res are much better quality.

I actually got out and played on Sunday, Ted and Rich can verify, LOL.

I had a blast meeting everyone. Shame I didn't get to hang out with you more. Maybe at teh next one!
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Old 01-31-2017, 07:55 PM #52
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I like Simon, a lot, but the next kid that dies from a lethal separation of a tank and reg is the fault of him and the people on the ASTM committee that chose this 'solution'.

For political reasons alone, this flawed design which relies on 100% QC of the tank and bottle threads was implemented in this industry.
One small incorrect number pad entry on a cnc, and the elongated 5/8-18 and the vent grooves are rendered useless.


A solution was presented that was infallible, cheap, could be integrated in bottle liner manufacturing. It was whole heartedly endorsed, in writing, by Luxfer and Gayston the leading bottle manufacturers at the time. A thrust limiting restriction built into every tank, and the design was able to be retro fit into existing tanks, was presented at the same time by PMIs rep.
A 0.06 insert to retrofit.

This could have put all lethal liability, legally, on the tank manufacturers. It was the right solution.


This issue was a primary factor in me wanting to leave paintball and never come back. And the reason I stayed involved under the radar for so very long, trying to prevent cost from over riding safety.

How can something so black and white be corrupted?

Unfortunately this is something I just can't let go. Most of the people I grew up playing with now have kids playing- and the lowest person on the manufacturing totem pole half a world away is capable of injecting a bad part into the playing population. And one more death is one too many after the two deaths, and a near miss that set these changes in motion.

Dresser from pbn, Lucas from Valken, Eurick from FS and Ceranski from GI all were apart of the staff when I made the thrust insert/modification. I am not selling fiction here. I have no axe to grind, I'd still rather see paintball succeed than continue to struggle.


To brag about something so flawed, I truly wanted to vomit while reading the above. I truly believe it is the worst thing Simon was ever a part of.

We stopped everything to address this, when it was time to present I was so confident of the clarity I was not apart of the presentation and most people have no idea who I am which is just how I want it.
But god ****ing damn it you are going to kill someone.
Aaron Stephens right, now working for Ninja Paintball? I was excited to hear you were coming back to work in the industry again.

Interesting how you want the responsibility put onto the tank manufacturer and not the reg manufacturer.

Everything in manufacturing has to be made correctly in order to perform as intended. That's no different as with any part. That's especially true for something as important as the compressed gas systems we use.

Since that system was designed and given away to the industry for anyone to use without paying royalties (unlike other people's designs that they were trying to patent and make money off) I don't know of a single separation incident that has caused an injury, and certainly not one that had that system implemented. Have there been some that you are aware of? That system was started in 2004 so it's been in use for nearly 13 years now.

There's no political reason this was adopted by everyone that I am aware of. It was given freely to the industry in order to help safety. I didn't want to put the "lethal liability" onto someone else . I wanted to stop it altogether.

Anyway, I'm a fan of redundant safety systems when it comes to our compressed gas systems. Does this mean Ninja will be implementing your safety restrictors in all of their air systems going forwards? I'd fully support that.

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Always respected Simon as a Mod here,. but one of the highlights of my paintball life was meeting him the year he left Kee. Got to bs in the bar with him later that night, but above all meeting someone you truly respect and admire is something words cannot ever paint a picture for. Good Luck with all your endeavors Simon, always cool to see what Inception has for us lying around the corner.
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I like Simon, a lot, but the next kid that dies from a lethal separation of a tank and reg is the fault of him and the people on the ASTM committee that chose this 'solution'.

For political reasons alone, this flawed design which relies on 100% QC of the tank and bottle threads was implemented in this industry.
One small incorrect number pad entry on a cnc, and the elongated 5/8-18 and the vent grooves are rendered useless.


A solution was presented that was infallible, cheap, could be integrated in bottle liner manufacturing. It was whole heartedly endorsed, in writing, by Luxfer and Gayston the leading bottle manufacturers at the time. A thrust limiting restriction built into every tank, and the design was able to be retro fit into existing tanks, was presented at the same time by PMIs rep.
A 0.06 insert to retrofit.

This could have put all lethal liability, legally, on the tank manufacturers. It was the right solution.


This issue was a primary factor in me wanting to leave paintball and never come back. And the reason I stayed involved under the radar for so very long, trying to prevent cost from over riding safety.

How can something so black and white be corrupted?

Unfortunately this is something I just can't let go. Most of the people I grew up playing with now have kids playing- and the lowest person on the manufacturing totem pole half a world away is capable of injecting a bad part into the playing population. And one more death is one too many after the two deaths, and a near miss that set these changes in motion.

Dresser from pbn, Lucas from Valken, Eurick from FS and Ceranski from GI all were apart of the staff when I made the thrust insert/modification. I am not selling fiction here. I have no axe to grind, I'd still rather see paintball succeed than continue to struggle.


To brag about something so flawed, I truly wanted to vomit while reading the above. I truly believe it is the worst thing Simon was ever a part of.

We stopped everything to address this, when it was time to present I was so confident of the clarity I was not apart of the presentation and most people have no idea who I am which is just how I want it.
But god ****ing damn it you are going to kill someone.

In almost 20 years of paintball I never heard of a death or serious injury from a tank/regulator separation.

That is some serious shade to be throwing over a system that has been in place for a very long time and has performed quite successfully
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I met Simon a few yeas ago, by a return phone call from him, shortly after he started Inception Designs then in person at Supergame 49 in 2016. I must say he is a "business owner" for the paintball player, at all levels from rec to pro. He listens to the players and communities to deliver products that not only are appealing to the eye they function at as expected.

Simon thanks for not just keeping the Autococker alive but for truly revitalizing it for the future of paintball.

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And here i thought he was just some AC enthusiast who had enough money to churn out some widget gadgets to peddle to those annoyingly loyal AC fans.

Sadly, I screwed up. I only knew Inception to be a Cocker part enthusiast, and never really paid much attention to their booth at Cup.

I am not worthy

BTW... great interview.
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Interview makes it sound like his parts are made in the USA but if I'm not mistaken they are from china. Maybe he will clarify this part of the interview.


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Old 02-01-2017, 07:50 AM #58
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Inception's stuff is made in the US (New Jersey) on American milling machines (Haas) by the most American Brit I know.
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Interview makes it sound like his parts are made in the USA but if I'm not mistaken they are from china. Maybe he will clarify this part of the interview.
You are very mistaken. I've been to his facility in New Jersey and watched parts being made.
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Interview makes it sound like his parts are made in the USA but if I'm not mistaken they are from china. Maybe he will clarify this part of the interview.


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I believe you are thinking about KEE/Empire products made in Taiwan, that Simon had a hand in design. His Inception stuff is all Merica
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In almost 20 years of paintball I never heard of a death or serious injury from a tank/regulator separation.
As for the post you are quoting, I have no idea.... but I trust Simon to be a stand up guy.

That being said..... I recall Ryan Moorhead getting hit in the leg, by a tank that separated from the reg, at an MS event in Madrid.... so it has happened, at least once.

Some genious had decided it was a good idea to lube inside the fill nipple, due to a leak..... and boom it went, while being filled.

Scary stuff.
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You are very mistaken. I've been to his facility in New Jersey and watched parts being made.


Maybe Simon cares to verify that nothing he makes is imported. Not attacking just curious as a owner of over a dozen of his products.


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Great interview of a great guy. Simon is the best "airsmith"
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