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Old 06-14-2020, 12:48 AM #358
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My 2 cent review

I played with it stock and also with the ramps and NTR speedfeed. The weirdest thing is that the "upgrades" actually made me not like it.

Positives: Seems to feed faster than a Spire with the new feed logic. Similar feed system to a spire so it'll be really hard to jam. Very easy to disassemble. Easy to install N-charge. Small/ light.

Negatives: Capacity is a little low which makes it harder to get a full pod in especially with the ramps installed unless its near empty. I almost thought it was better without the ramps for this reason.

The rain lid is a little difficult to open at first (The trick I found was to almost bend it as you open it) and the power button is a little hard to press but none of these were a dealbreaker for me.

The BIGGEST issue I had was with the speedfeed. There is a little looseness in the fit when installed (compared to a spire3). The piece of plastic where the lid latches onto is too skinny and it can get dislodged very easily if the speedfeed is not pulled all the way back. Just the force of shaking a full hopper up and down was enough to pop mine open if it was bumped forward slightly.

With the lower profile/capacity I felt this loader was geared more towards the front player so it's got be able to stay closed during aggressive moves. I want to say like 50% of my dives/slides this thing was popping open. Unacceptable and very frustrating. This never happens when I use a spire or rotor. I thought about gluing the speedfeed down to solve the issue but decided to just sell it instead.

Hope this helps someone with their decision.
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Old 06-15-2020, 09:10 AM #359
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If there were ever a loader that could benefit from a hi-cap top option, this is really it. I really do like the loader but wish the capacity were higher, and it seems like a no-brainer for an option.
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Old 07-01-2020, 08:13 AM #360
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Update on this, I talked to them and they said that they had a few of the early production units they sold at cup, but they are still waiting for main shipment of them to arrive. They told me to sit tight and they’ll be out someday.
old post I know but the vids had me dealing with other stuff for awhile. Thank you for the update, I will hold tight. =)

Or by spray paint as suggested up thread. =)
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Old 07-07-2020, 08:44 PM #361
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Ok, so figured out two easy fixes that cause no damage to your gear, are dirt cheap, and moronically simple for two of the major problems people have with the loader---the speedfeed and the on/off.

1. Speedfeed- Grab an o-ring that's two sizes down from the bottle o-ring. Take your speedfeed off your loader. Stretch that o-ring over the receiver for the speedfeed on your loader so that it's over the logo. Click in your speedfeed and pull it up. Slide that little o-ring up onto the neck of the speedfeed. There. You're done. It will have enough give to allow you to open and close it, remove almost all movement from the speedfeed, push the speedfeed down far enough to lock into place, is barely visible, and cost roughly $.10 to do.

2. On/off- just toss any round spacer that will fit onto the inside of the button in the shell and the board. I used a hole punch (actually leather punch) and flat gasket rubber that's a couple bucks a sheet. Done. Superglue it if you're feeling frisky. Now it turns on really easily. I may make more out of turned delrin later, but problem solved.

Wouldn't be shocked if these solutions were elsewhere, but hadn't seen them, and they're both cheap and easy, and solve two of the issues people seem to complain about with virtually no effort.


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Old 07-13-2020, 06:28 PM #362
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My issue seems to be how things are held together. I did a dive and the hopper ended up blowing up on the field lol

I'll preface that with it was my own doing but I felt the spire was definitely more "solid" on the sense of structure strength
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Old 07-14-2020, 04:40 PM #363
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I tripped and fell off the break; my CTRL exploded, with the top shell in front of me and the guts off to my right. I didn't even consider that the electronics were missing when I scrambled up to the top shell. I played the rest of the point with a CTRL gravity loader until I finally saw my electronics spinning mindlessly on the field after I was out.

Trying to consider ways to keep the top lid fully secure because losing everything in a fall is a nightmare.

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Old 07-14-2020, 08:59 PM #364
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Trying to consider ways to keep the top lid fully secure because losing everything in a fall is a nightmare.
Get a Spire 3, the top shell is pretty much attached. Aside from the internals, everything about the CTRL just feels "cheap" to me when compared to the Spire 3. Don't get me wrong, I really like Virtue (most of the products, the people that work there, their teams) but the CTRL and new Luxe/Spire4 combo don't sit right with me. I saw the "new" Luxe and Spire 4 were both losing paint and seemed off. Idk. Stream of consciousness, had a few beers. sorry lol
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Old 07-15-2020, 09:20 AM #365
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Get a Spire 3, the top shell is pretty much attached. Aside from the internals, everything about the CTRL just feels "cheap" to me when compared to the Spire 3. Don't get me wrong, I really like Virtue (most of the products, the people that work there, their teams) but the CTRL and new Luxe/Spire4 combo don't sit right with me. I saw the "new" Luxe and Spire 4 were both losing paint and seemed off. Idk. Stream of consciousness, had a few beers. sorry lol
If you could put the guts out of the CTRL into the body of a Spire 3 that would be the ticket. Maybe that's what they are doing with the Spire 4.
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Old 07-15-2020, 10:09 AM #366
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CTRL have been seen exploding all over the place when people slide or fall.

They have a serious design flaw clearly. Hard pass.
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Old 07-15-2020, 10:22 AM #367
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CTRL have been seen exploding all over the place when people slide or fall.

They have a serious design flaw clearly. Hard pass.
they have? can you provide and video links?
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Old 07-15-2020, 10:31 AM #368
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Get a Spire 3, the top shell is pretty much attached. Aside from the internals, everything about the CTRL just feels "cheap" to me when compared to the Spire 3. Don't get me wrong, I really like Virtue (most of the products, the people that work there, their teams) but the CTRL and new Luxe/Spire4 combo don't sit right with me. I saw the "new" Luxe and Spire 4 were both losing paint and seemed off. Idk. Stream of consciousness, had a few beers. sorry lol
Don't drink and PBN kids. But to reiterate my point, the CTRL "feels" cheap when compared to the Spire 3. The new Luxe/Spire4 combo also seems to have the paint on the Spire 4 flaking off very easily along with the plastic components on the Luxe not giving that same "luxurious" feel that the all metal parts have.

I'll try and PBN sober from now on.
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Old 07-15-2020, 10:38 AM #369
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they have? can you provide and video links?
Yeah I'd be interested in seeing this too. I haven't had any issues with mine coming apart, granted I'm not a snake player so I'm not super hard on it either.
I think the on/off button placement kind of sucks and I wish it held about 30 more paintballs in it with the ramps installed. Other than those minor things it's been a pretty solid loader for me.
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Old 07-15-2020, 11:36 AM #370
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https://youtu.be/8vFu0YF5zbo

Around 3:10 mark. In fairness it was a bad dive and I did about 6 others on it without issue, my only point is the spire wouldn't have done that. Overall happy with the CTRL
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Old 07-15-2020, 11:50 AM #371
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If you could put the guts out of the CTRL into the body of a Spire 3 that would be the ticket. Maybe that's what they are doing with the Spire 4.
Thats basically what the 4 is.
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Old 07-15-2020, 01:15 PM #372
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Yeah I'd be interested in seeing this too. I haven't had any issues with mine coming apart, granted I'm not a snake player so I'm not super hard on it either.
I think the on/off button placement kind of sucks and I wish it held about 30 more paintballs in it with the ramps installed. Other than those minor things it's been a pretty solid loader for me.
I had a bad slide and the entire hopper came apart. The latch system at least for me is not very secure in that kind of environment. It's a good loader system, just not a fan of the way it's held together.
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Old 07-15-2020, 08:06 PM #373
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I like mine. I got it and the speed feed for cheap. I have no issues with the power button. Squishy yeah but it’s fine. It is a great loader no jams or ball breaks since I’ve been using it. I shoot this with an insight. I also have a couple of spire ir’s for my etek4 and my bob long 2k5 alias. They work well on those markers.

The guys are right the shell of the Ctrl seems a little thin and. it might come apart too easy. Just get some electrical tape and put a little on the front over the tab. Yeah you shouldn’t need too. But. Also put a wrap around the middle of the loader just in front of the speed feed and you are golden. Not like you are going to clean it during a match. So. Have fun and get out there and play

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