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Old 07-06-2020, 05:28 AM #22
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It should be for now when it pertains to COVID

If other sports/hobbies/industries had someone as young and influential for them like Tim dying because of the current global pandemic, you can bet community leaders would be making a big fuss about educating their base properly about the disease.

The fact some people here think dying from complications of COVID "means" not actually dying from COVID says a lot.
Of course. When Bing and Google News has it's own Coronavirus section in their newsfeeds I think it is important to come to PBNation so I can get the real story from guys that do nothing but copy and paste. So thankful you geniuses are here.
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Old 07-06-2020, 07:27 AM #23
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Of course. When Bing and Google News has it's own Coronavirus section in their newsfeeds I think it is important to come to PBNation so I can get the real story from guys that do nothing but copy and paste. So thankful you geniuses are here.
A copy and paste is still useful since it's obvious few people check those sections on COVID given some of the replies here.
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Between the ages of 18-35 there are a total of Confirmed 83,608 infections in the state of California, with a total of 64 deaths. And that doesn’t even account for the thousands of cases that have not, or were not reported. So do the math, and that leaves you with a mortality rate of 0.0007%, For that age group.
Don't get your info from someone who doesn't know how to calculate a percentage.
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Old 07-07-2020, 09:01 PM #28
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Yes the covid transmission rate is 3x higher then influenza. The case fate mortality rate is NOT 4.5 %. You can even just look at case studies to figure that out.

1200 infected on the USS Roosevelt docked in New York....only one death, 4 hospitalized and more then half never developed symptoms. Now, the navy is a younger crowd, so that falls in with the 18-35 age range typically. So let’s look at the meat packaging plants that got infected.

Smithfield: ~1000 infections, 2 deaths.
Triumph: ~500 infections, 1 death.

Workforce IFR, that’s between 0.01-0.02 for those case studies.

And as far as after effects from the virus, you see that in many viruses.

“ Also if you have Covid and died... it's what caused you to die. ”

No, the problem is I personally know someone who hung himself, and was listed as a covid death....what I’m saying is, you can’t go out swimming, get eaten by a shark, have your remains test positive for covid, and then have covid listed as the cause of death. What’s wrong with that picture I just listed? The man clearly died because he was eaten by a shark, not because of his covid infection. The lady clearly said in that video that I listed, “if you were given 3 weeks left to live with cancer, and then you test positive for covid and die 3 weeks later, you will be listed as a covid death.”

So again, this is public knowledge that the deaths are severely inflated, even dr Fauci and Birx have said they’re inflated between 25-35%. Hospitals get more funding when they list covid on death certificates, even when they know covid wasn’t the actual cause of death.

Here’s a better link to the cdc mortality rate

https://www.google.com/amp/s/reason....RITarU8Zt8Fiw&

Also my mom is a nurse near chicago. She said the hospital near the city is nearly at full capacity but every other hospital around the area, is at 50% or lower. Another problem were seeing is now hospitals are facing an increase in patients with no covid symptoms due to avoiding doctor visits. People are avoiding hospital visits when they have chest pain, abdominal pain etc...and it’s turning out they’re having heart attacks
I literally gave your the # of cases and the # of deaths from CDC... its 4.5%. Your microscopic focus blurs the issue when you look bigger scale. The USS Roosevelt has undoubtedly more healthy people than the public. They got the sick people out, people were tested and taken care of. Additionally, the ages of the people on there are much less likely to die. Lastly, just because you don't die from it doesn't mean you're damage free.

Your reason post is from May 24. A lot of data and changes have happened from May 24. Lastly, again you're citing a PLANNING scenario and estimates.

Don't know what else to tell you. I'll trust my brother, the MD, and the CDC's information alone with global statistics. You can't look at 3 small scale examples then make assumptions about the larger populous.

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Yes the covid transmission rate is 3x higher then influenza. The case fate mortality rate is NOT 4.5 %. You can even just look at case studies to figure that out.

1200 infected on the USS Roosevelt docked in New York....only one death, 4 hospitalized and more then half never developed symptoms. Now, the navy is a younger crowd, so that falls in with the 18-35 age range typically. So let’s look at the meat packaging plants that got infected.

Smithfield: ~1000 infections, 2 deaths.
Triumph: ~500 infections, 1 death.

Workforce IFR, that’s between 0.01-0.02 for those case studies.

And as far as after effects from the virus, you see that in many viruses.

“ Also if you have Covid and died... it's what caused you to die. ”

No, the problem is I personally know someone who hung himself, and was listed as a covid death....what I’m saying is, you can’t go out swimming, get eaten by a shark, have your remains test positive for covid, and then have covid listed as the cause of death. What’s wrong with that picture I just listed? The man clearly died because he was eaten by a shark, not because of his covid infection. The lady clearly said in that video that I listed, “if you were given 3 weeks left to live with cancer, and then you test positive for covid and die 3 weeks later, you will be listed as a covid death.”

So again, this is public knowledge that the deaths are severely inflated, even dr Fauci and Birx have said they’re inflated between 25-35%. Hospitals get more funding when they list covid on death certificates, even when they know covid wasn’t the actual cause of death.

Here’s a better link to the cdc mortality rate

https://www.google.com/amp/s/reason....RITarU8Zt8Fiw&

Also my mom is a nurse near chicago. She said the hospital near the city is nearly at full capacity but every other hospital around the area, is at 50% or lower. Another problem were seeing is now hospitals are facing an increase in patients with no covid symptoms due to avoiding doctor visits. People are avoiding hospital visits when they have chest pain, abdominal pain etc...and it’s turning out they’re having heart attacks
I literally gave your the # of cases and the # of deaths from CDC... its 4.5%. Your microscopic focus blurs the issue when you look bigger scale. The USS Roosevelt has undoubtedly more healthy people than the public. They got the sick people out, people were tested and taken care of. Additionally, the ages of the people on there are much less likely to die. Lastly, just because you don't die from it doesn't mean you're damage free.

Your reason post is from May 24. A lot of data and changes have happened from May 24. Lastly, again you're citing a PLANNING scenario and estimates.

Don't know what else to tell you. I'll trust my brother, the MD, and the CDC's information alone with global statistics. You can't look at 3 small scale examples then make assumptions about the larger populous.

Good day.
I got a quiz for you.....3 million confirmed cases of flu for 2018, with 80k deaths. But based on antibody testing that 35-50million in America are infected with influenza a year on average ....what’s the case fatality rate range ? Is it 0.28 or is it around 0.1% or lower? C’mon buddy, step on my toes I do it right back. “Good day.”

Ps. Tell your brother to tell his hospital to stop listing drug overdoses, car accidents, suicides and homicides and actual covid deaths for a higher federal income and pay

https://www.dailywire.com/news/drug-...us-death-toll?

Oh and ps ps...George floyd was listed as a covid death. But we all know a cop kneeled on his neck and suffocated him
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Old 07-11-2020, 03:38 PM #30
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Between the ages of 18-35 there are a total of Confirmed 83,608 infections in the state of California, with a total of 64 deaths. And that doesn’t even account for the thousands of cases that have not, or were not reported. So do the math, and that leaves you with a mortality rate of 0.0007%, For that age group.
Don't get your info from someone who doesn't know how to calculate a percentage.
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Oh and ps ps...George floyd was listed as a covid death. But we all know a cop kneeled on his neck and suffocated him
Again, can we just ignore the self-proclaimed troll of pbn?

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You literally have a better chance of death by choking on your meal than dying from Covid <35yo.

Just because you test positive for COVID doesn’t mean it was the cause of your death or disability.

My hospital tests every single person who comes in the door and gets admitted whether they have symptoms or not. We’ve had a bunch of COVID icu admissions, not for COVID, but for issues requiring icu level admission who are asymptomatic positive.

Mark Twain said it best - there’s lies, there’s damn lies, and then there’s statistics.

Multiple antibody tests across the US, and completely unrelated to one another are reporting similar findings - 10-50 fold higher positive antibodies than predicted, putting actual mortality between 0.04%-0.12%.

If Tim died of a brain aneurysm, that’s it. Cause of death - brain aneurysm. Testing positive for Covid is a coincidence. 50-60% of positive tests are asymptomatic.
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I don't understand why Russell's video can't be simply taken at face value. Guessing when you have a fraction of the information that Tim's doctors, friends and colleagues have is kinda morbid. People speculating and analysing based on some speculative comments and armchair research is just so utterly pointless and kinda disrespectful.

They wouldn't have cancelled the event if they didn't have damn good reason to do so.
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I don't understand why Russell's video can't be simply taken at face value. Guessing when you have a fraction of the information that Tim's doctors, friends and colleagues have is kinda morbid. People speculating and analysing based on some speculative comments and armchair research is just so utterly pointless and disrespectful.

They wouldn't have cancelled the event if they didn't have damn good reason to do so.
Yup the "brain aneurysm" has only been floated around places without being confirmed by reliable sources.

Russell Jackson is the only person I've seen with enough credibility to say Tim died of covid-19 and its complications. We should treat it as the reason of his death until someone with more authenticity says otherwise.
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I don't understand why Russell's video can't be simply taken at face value. Guessing when you have a fraction of the information that Tim's doctors, friends and colleagues have is kinda morbid. People speculating and analysing based on some speculative comments and armchair research is just so utterly pointless and kinda disrespectful.

They wouldn't have cancelled the event if they didn't have damn good reason to do so.
Yes it is disrespectful not to mention a pointless unwinnable argument.
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Regardless.. The states needs to get this under control.

I miss going down south and visiting my friends. At this rate the border will be closed until 2021.
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Oh and ps ps...George floyd was listed as a covid death. But we all know a cop kneeled on his neck and suffocated him
Again, can we just ignore the self-proclaimed troll of pbn?

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-m...-idUSKBN23B1HX
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He’s counted as a covid death. Although they didn’t put it on his certificate. Anyone who tests positive for covid after they die, is added to the covid death toll count.
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