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Old 01-03-2022, 10:41 PM #43
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The Ironmen are the only team left from the Big 3. All Americans and Aftershock are both done but the 'Men live on. So far.
Feels like Dye doesnít care much to be honest. I could be 100% wrong, but they do not have the feel of a major companyís flagship team anymore.
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Old 01-04-2022, 09:05 AM #44
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Feels like Dye doesnít care much to be honest. I could be 100% wrong, but they do not have the feel of a major companyís flagship team anymore.
Sure seems that way to me too. I would sure think that if Dye wanted to put the resources to it they could have a team of superstars like Heat. They just don't seem to care.

If they did they'd get Shaner to come back in some capacity to help and throw some money at 3 or 4 big time players.
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Feels like Dye doesn’t care much to be honest. I could be 100% wrong, but they do not have the feel of a major company’s flagship team anymore.
The big question is will they sell their spot or try to rebuild. How much does it cost to purchase a pro spot?
I know a team that would definitely be interested
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Old 01-04-2022, 12:53 PM #46
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The big question is will they sell their spot or try to rebuild. How much does it cost to purchase a pro spot?
I know a team that would definitely be interested
Well the current price is 50K apparently.
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Should they care? They have have RL who maybe didn't have the best season last year but that was covid related and not really skill/ability related. Plus from what I have heard dye products are still selling really well. Not too many negative repercussions from the IM performance. Don't get me wrong I would love to see them bounce back and be a real competitor even if it's for nothing more than for the sake of having as many top tier teams as possible, but from a IOR perspective I can't see investing heavily into them as being that appealing.
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Well the current price is 50K apparently.
I wonder what they get for that 50K? Is it a franchise? Franchise's usually get a piece of the pie. Are they buying ownership into the league? Do they get voting rights? Does the team throw away 50k just for the 'honor' of saying they are pro and get nothing else for their investment? Who would get the 50K? If Ironmen sold their spot would the Ironmen get the 50K or would the league get the 50K. I highly doubt Dave paid 50K to join the the NXL after they torpedoed the PSP.

None of this is any of my business of course, but I am a bit curious how things work behind the curtain.
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Old 01-04-2022, 10:33 PM #49
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Iconic paintball shared a rumor with a strong possibility of it being true, that Seattle Thunder sold their pro spot to Brooklyn Bears.
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I wonder what they get for that 50K? Is it a franchise? Franchise's usually get a piece of the pie. Are they buying ownership into the league? Do they get voting rights? Does the team throw away 50k just for the 'honor' of saying they are pro and get nothing else for their investment? Who would get the 50K? If Ironmen sold their spot would the Ironmen get the 50K or would the league get the 50K. I highly doubt Dave paid 50K to join the the NXL after they torpedoed the PSP.

None of this is any of my business of course, but I am a bit curious how things work behind the curtain.
Let's see.

TMG ran by Jeremy salm won pro nxl spot in 2014.
Jeremy sold the spot at cup 2021.
I'm sure he pocketed all the money (not sure exactly)


He possibly handed over their tmg appa login which is a registered pro team.

I'm assuming they are gonna change the name on the appa. And pay the league for change

Done, new pro team.

Now the handling of funds is anyone's guess
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Pretty sure that is confirmed. Brooklyn Bears and thunder have merged. I heard that there will be 4-5 current thunder players along with 4-5 current Bears players.

On selling your pro spot the league doesnít get anything as the league doesnít technically own that spot. Itís not a franchise. So the Latin saint could get relegated next season and have paid 50k for one season in pro. I believe the only thing the league required is to pay for all the media, banners etc to now be switched from TMG to Latin Saints.
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Basically it is confirmed, just waiting for official wording from both camps. I heard the exact deal and it’s not as bad as one would think. We at least get one more year to see Thunder compete, and the addition of the Brooklyn Bear’s sounds like it’s going to make a very competitive roster.
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My guess is the roster will look something like this

Corey Field
Mapp Chim
Adam Gomez
Paddy Gleason

Basically the core of Seattle thunder and Paddy who has become a solid player

Joey Altamore
Robbie Altamore
Nick Criscione
Jared Cester

Basically the core of the Brooklyn Bear and 4 players who have played together since ECE days.

Not sure if scotty graham would come along as well.

So yes a solid roster for sure. The only hurdle I see is practice time but Iím sure they will figure it out.
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Merge is happening. Keeping the thunder name.
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Like the facebook comments, I thought of same thing. They should change name to Thunder Bears.
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Like the facebook comments, I thought of same thing. They should change name to Thunder Bears.
Thats 5k change to the league. Revo was going to change to 187 crew but didn't because of the cost.
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Thats 5k change to the league. Revo was going to change to 187 crew but didn't because of the cost.
Worth it
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I wouldn't be too shocked to see Jonny Grier's name pop up on the roster. He was playing with the Bears the past couple events and helped them get 3rd at cup. Plus, it always makes me feel happy to see my first paintball teammate have success lol
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Unclear on the Thunder/Bear merge. Is it a merge to add additional players and depth to roster, or did the Bears buy Thunder's spot, while keeping Thunder's name for the time being, and allowing some of the Thunder's players to continue to play on their own team?
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Unclear on the Thunder/Bear merge. Is it a merge to add additional players and depth to roster, or did the Bears buy Thunder's spot, while keeping Thunder's name for the time being, and allowing some of the Thunder's players to continue to play on their own team?
That. According to Iconic the Bears bought the spot but are keeping on the core of the Thunder roster and retaining the name for this season.
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Unclear on the Thunder/Bear merge. Is it a merge to add additional players and depth to roster, or did the Bears buy Thunder's spot, while keeping Thunder's name for the time being, and allowing some of the Thunder's players to continue to play on their own team?
Seems like financial help from they way I read it. Helping off set the cost to play at Pro level while taking on some Bears players and some Thunder
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Sounds like the Boom/Nrg situation. Eventually most of the Boom players were fazed out.
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From what I have read, it sounds like this will end up being the last season of Thunder.

ARod to Saints. Spika rumored to be joining as well.
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