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Old 11-16-2020, 10:16 AM #43
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As much as I love all the "companies" under SP, the blatant copy of the gamma core is really low. And that little jab definitely doesnt help
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Old 11-16-2020, 10:50 AM #44
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It is not James fault the Gardner's were born without integrity or just plain common decency.
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Old 11-16-2020, 11:13 AM #45
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C'mon now James, are you really going to stick a little jab about someone copying something DLX is planning to release when the last release under DLX and their sister company SP both flat out stole Jack Woods engine design? Thats the real joke.
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Old 11-16-2020, 11:26 AM #46
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Certainly, but you also cant make little jabs like that then lol.

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Old 11-16-2020, 01:33 PM #47
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I'm more planning on eating popcorn and watching but my point is if you spend time complaining of copying it will be a dilemma if you copy back on the improvements (which they are) or not. I'm sure it will be and tech will continue to get better and better. Just may be in for a lil irony. Either way the cores get better the more the limits are pushed vs. resting on old tech and we all win.
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Old 11-16-2020, 01:53 PM #48
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If this next gen Xamma Core utilizes a poppet face for the firing valve, I'll die.
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Old 11-16-2020, 01:55 PM #49
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Old 11-16-2020, 01:56 PM #50
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I'm more planning on eating popcorn and watching but my point is if you spend time complaining of copying it will be a dilemma if you copy back on the improvements (which they are) or not. I'm sure it will be and tech will continue to get better and better. Just may be in for a lil irony. Either way the cores get better the more the limits are pushed vs. resting on old tech and we all win.
That is an odd way to look at it. Steal 99.9% of the engine design, make fractionally marginal changes to someone else's designs, and then call them out if they follow suit? In my book PE is allowed to complain about it until the end of time because they produced an amazing design and rather than DLX doing the hard work to produce something new, they again just took another engine that was already out and made minute changes and called it their own; just like the SFT engine in the Luxe 1/2 and the Ion engine in the RSX/XLS.

PE, you guys to an extent, F1, Macdev, Dye are the only ones doing to hard effort to actually produce something new and interesting while everyone else is just imitating and copying anymore.
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Old 11-16-2020, 01:57 PM #51
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Jk, I have no idea what it will be. Maybe it will have an even newer coating!!
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That is an odd way to look at it. Steal 99.9% of the engine design, make fractionally marginal changes to someone else's designs, and then call them out if they follow suit? In my book PE is allowed to complain about it until the end of time because they produced an amazing design and rather than DLX doing the hard work to produce something new, they again just took another engine that was already out and made minute changes and called it their own; just like the SFT engine in the Luxe 1/2 and the Ion engine in the RSX/XLS.

PE, you guys to an extent, F1, Macdev, Dye are the only ones doing to hard effort to actually produce something new and interesting while everyone else is just imitating and copying anymore.
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Old 11-16-2020, 02:23 PM #53
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We definitely don't look at what others are doing. We basically white board a project and start with a bunch of ideas and some stick and some don't. We actually do guns the exact same way we did in 1997 and always have. We are familiar with copying though, we left WDP and Angels behind because of it.
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We definitely don't look at what others are doing. We basically white board a project and start with a bunch of ideas and some stick and some don't. We actually do guns the exact same way we did in 1997 and always have. We are familiar with copying though, we left WDP and Angels behind because of it.

And here I thought the Angel just became obsolete.
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Old 11-17-2020, 06:44 AM #56
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I think the milling on this looks great, James. Nice to see something a little different out there.
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Old 11-17-2020, 07:36 AM #57
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I think the milling on this looks great, James. Nice to see something a little different out there.
Thanks! I literally said I don't care if it looks horrible it just has to be completely new and different. We got crushed when we spent a lot of time on the full body Shocker wave pattern and everyone called it a ripper. This time we said we would just go 180 from anything else and hope for the best. The run time on certain parts (like the barrel) is super long but luckily we don't make a lot of units so it works.
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