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Old 02-18-2020, 01:48 PM #22
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Old 02-18-2020, 01:51 PM #23
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This is a CS2. The IV Core is not compatible with the CS2 (or any Gamma Core marker) and the frame is not compatible with any model aside from the CS2.
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Can you help me understand why a mech trigger is possible for the Gama Core and not an IV core? I know they function very different, but is it simply the airflow and the spool needed to move the air between the different paths?
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Old 02-18-2020, 04:59 PM #24
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Old 02-18-2020, 05:16 PM #25
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Old 02-18-2020, 05:45 PM #26
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I just recently got a CS2 Pro, was considering getting the M170r, but NOPE! My CS2 will played with more now! Well done PE, very well done!

Price point for the mech CS frame?
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Old 02-18-2020, 05:58 PM #27
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Old 02-18-2020, 06:03 PM #28
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Old 02-18-2020, 06:04 PM #29
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I know! Was considering an emek for mech play but now I'll just use my CS2!
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Old 02-18-2020, 07:33 PM #30
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The Geo4 for me, but honestly PBE is still young ... maybe there is more to drop from Dye or DLX?
Geo 4 is cool as well. I am not as much of a die hard IV Core fan as some of you guys, but I can definitely see the following and how that's a good release. Same for the LV. I have actually been wanting another LV for a while but the questionable solenoid situation made me hesitant.

I still think these frames are going to outsell everything else they released.
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Old 02-18-2020, 07:39 PM #31
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Old 02-18-2020, 07:44 PM #32
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Hey Imped,

Can you help me understand why a mech trigger is possible for the Gama Core and not an IV core? I know they function very different, but is it simply the airflow and the spool needed to move the air between the different paths?
oooo i think i can answer this one, so the gamma core is "dwell independent" meaning that the firing cycle takes the same amount of time regardless of the dwell setting

that's why it can be a mech, when a gun has a different FPS at a dwell of 15ms than it does for 10ms and then you introduce a mechanical valve that dwell can vary based on a handful of factors, (grease, wear, trigger pressure, how long its held open for, etc..) you wont be able to regulate your velocity

gamma core doesn't care, i don't think the IV core was ever fully dwell independent
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oooo i think i can answer this one, so the gamma core is "dwell independent" meaning that the firing cycle takes the same amount of time regardless of the dwell setting

that's why it can be a mech, when a gun has a different FPS at a dwell of 15ms than it does for 10ms and then you introduce a mechanical valve that dwell can vary based on a handful of factors, (grease, wear, trigger pressure, how long its held open for, etc..) you wont be able to regulate your velocity

gamma core doesn't care, i don't think the IV core was ever fully dwell independent
that totally makes sense thank you
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Old 02-18-2020, 09:33 PM #34
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Any more information on the LV frame? Seems like the thing I'm most interested in is the thing I'm seeing the least info about.
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Old 02-19-2020, 12:46 AM #35
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Any more information on the LV frame? Seems like the thing I'm most interested in is the thing I'm seeing the least info about.
What LV frame?
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Old 02-19-2020, 03:10 AM #36
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What LV frame?
he probably is referring to this line.

Jack Wood had this to say, "We love the Mech revival and the M170R and the EMEK100 are great shooters in their different price ranges. But there are always some players that just want the very best. The ultimate expression of style and technology. Our current range topper is the CS2, and the GP Core, like the standard Gamma Core in the Emek and M170R, makes a perfect mech shooter. But just like we took the Gamma Core and turbo charged it for the CS2 we have completely re-worked the mech frame for the CS2. There is a completely new 3-way valve with integrated QEV. Then there is the mech trigger version of the Lever Valve in the LV line. Except we added loads of roller bearings, ramps, and adjustable cams to create what is possibly the most customizable mech trigger in paintball. It's definitely a bit special."
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Old 02-19-2020, 03:37 AM #37
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This kinda makes me want to buy a twister cs2 now.
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Old 02-19-2020, 05:11 AM #38
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Any more information on the LV frame? Seems like the thing I'm most interested in is the thing I'm seeing the least info about.
There is no LV frame.

They are saying they used an LV style lever valve in the mech CS2 frame.
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Old 02-19-2020, 05:34 AM #39
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Old 02-19-2020, 07:17 AM #41
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What LV frame?
he probably is referring to this line.

Jack Wood had this to say, "We love the Mech revival and the M170R and the EMEK100 are great shooters in their different price ranges. But there are always some players that just want the very best. The ultimate expression of style and technology. Our current range topper is the CS2, and the GP Core, like the standard Gamma Core in the Emek and M170R, makes a perfect mech shooter. But just like we took the Gamma Core and turbo charged it for the CS2 we have completely re-worked the mech frame for the CS2. There is a completely new 3-way valve with integrated QEV. Then there is the mech trigger version of the Lever Valve in the LV line. Except we added loads of roller bearings, ramps, and adjustable cams to create what is possibly the most customizable mech trigger in paintball. It's definitely a bit special."
That's what I was referring to. Really got my hopes up there would be a mech trigger version for the LV line.
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There is no LV frame. A mechanical LV wouldn't work nearly as well as you'd like it to since you'd lose all or most dwell control.

To explain - the mechanical actuator valve (in place of the solenoid) used in the CS2 mech frame applies the "LV1 lever valve concept" to it. While I haven't seen a detailed breakdown of this yet, I'm guessing there's a lever somewhere between the trigger and valve to allow a shorter/lighter pull, thanks to a mechanical advantage offered by the lever. Or perhaps I'm wrong, we'll wait for an explanation.
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