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Old 02-07-2019, 10:48 PM #1
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A1 Operating pressure

Just picked up an A1 and have a question as to what kind of tank I should get.

I read in the manual and it said not to exceed 850psi. Normal tanks are at 800psi output. Do these run better at a lower op pressure? Would getting an adjustable tank reg be best or is running at 800 psi ok?
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Old 02-08-2019, 12:46 AM #2
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Used to run my A1 on a Ninja Pro v1 reg set to ~450psi, worked great

You might be ok with ~800psi, but I do remember reading somewhere that you may have issues to chrono below 300fps (don't take my word for it though, memory not always that great anymore )
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You are much better off to be in the 450-550 range for the A1. The mini reg sometimes can handle the 800psi, but in most cases it causes more headaches than it is worth.

The lower pressure is better all around on the internals, as it is what it was designed for.
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Old 02-08-2019, 03:04 PM #4
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Old 04-15-2019, 02:22 PM #5
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You are much better off to be in the 450-550 range for the A1. The mini reg sometimes can handle the 800psi, but in most cases it causes more headaches than it is worth.

The lower pressure is better all around on the internals, as it is what it was designed for.


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Old 05-17-2019, 03:05 PM #6
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Certainly go with the low pressure tank, which the gun is designed for. It's difficult to get the gun to chrony low enough running a standard output tank, at least that's what I found. I almost needed to turn my velocity adjustment screw off just to get down to about 280 and it didn't leave me a lot of room for adjustment after that. Other than dwell adjustments that is.

If you have the verticle asa adaptor to use standard thread aftermarket regulators you may be able to get away with it. If you have the stock cartridge reg like I do.....it's not a good idea.
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Old 05-17-2019, 05:41 PM #7
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Certainly go with the low pressure tank, which the gun is designed for. It's difficult to get the gun to chrony low enough running a standard output tank, at least that's what I found. I almost needed to turn my velocity adjustment screw off just to get down to about 280 and it didn't leave me a lot of room for adjustment after that. Other than dwell adjustments that is.

If you have the verticle asa adaptor to use standard thread aftermarket regulators you may be able to get away with it. If you have the stock cartridge reg like I do.....it's not a good idea.
It seems like almost all Angel markers ran on low pressure at one point. The mini reg mod was something new for the A1 if I'm not mistaken?

It's probably why Angels are or were the easiest on brittle paint.
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Old 05-18-2019, 04:48 PM #8
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It seems like almost all Angel markers ran on low pressure at one point. The mini reg mod was something new for the A1 if I'm not mistaken?

It's probably why Angels are or were the easiest on brittle paint.
I know the A4, and the speed (way back then) were some of the first electros that suggested a low pressure tank back in the day. An A4 I recently restored was also a cannon with a standard output tank lol. I had to convert the owners old PE tank to a low pressure output just to make it safe since he didn't actually own a chrony and played back yard ball.

I never found angels easy on paint ever, in fact I never actually owned one*(until now) because I never played a single day of paintball with an angel and didn't break paint lol. They didn't come out with real eyes far too late which the biggest issue. Now I'm showing my age.
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One of APS's big marketing brags when the A1 was released was Joy Division keeping their paint in coolers at pro events so it would stay brittle enough to break from a knee-height fall, and shooting it without issue.
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One of APS's big marketing brags when the A1 was released was Joy Division keeping their paint in coolers at pro events so it would stay brittle enough to break from a knee-height fall, and shooting it without issue.

There used to be a video on YouTube of them taking the paintballs out of a freezer and shooting outside in very cold conditions. The marker shot flawlessly and never broken a ball.
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It's probably why Angels are or were the easiest on brittle paint.
Tank output pressure and a marker being gentle on paint have zero correlation.
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It's probably why Angels are or were the easiest on brittle paint.
Tank output pressure and a marker being gentle on paint have zero correlation.
I understand. It actually has more to do with the HPR and dwell settings. Thank you for catching my error.
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I understand. It actually has more to do with the HPR and dwell settings. Thank you for catching my error.
That's sort of it. However the LPR pressure on the A1 out of the box was usually off by a lot using the standard LPR shim configuration. You really needed to adjust each gun personally. I didn't know that back in the day so the original A1 I had was still a paint breaker even on most brittle paint settings from the board.

Hopepr tech has also improved things a LOT with more consistent ball stacks and stack pressure.

The one I own now was set properly, and tuned much better(it was at 85psi with stock shim config, now running 55 flawlessly). Not easy to do without an external LPR adjustment........one of the reasons the company died. I think I'm at a conservative 12ms dwell......runs nice and smooth.

Anyway this A1 has never broken a ball.
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