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Old 11-07-2018, 11:04 PM #43
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Old 11-07-2018, 11:26 PM #44
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Dye Dam runs at about 135-150 iirc
Oh right. I forgot the unaffordable magfed markers. We can throw Carmatech in that bunch too.

I agree, operating pressure probably has less control over efficiency then design. And it’s great to see PE get into magfed.

As long as this still priced below the TMC and Milsig M17, it’ll do well. It’s a good thing for PE that Tippmann is raising the price for the TMC and Milsig is planning to do the same with the M17. This will probably canabalize Dye Dam sales though. Maybe they will be forced to drop the price on the Dam to compete with First Strike offerings. Competition is good for the wallet.
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Old 11-08-2018, 12:25 AM #45
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This has me in tears. I was about ro buy a t15 or a 468. Will eventually. But i have an etha 2 i am a huge fan boy. I am ordering 2 bodies from shapeways.com and another on black friday. I wanted an emek but now i can wait till the mg100 comes out. I am so excited.
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Old 11-08-2018, 12:30 AM #46
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Man does it look UGLY. Just get rid of the hopper feed. If I'm buying a magfed marker I have no use for a hopper. Knowing PE, it's not going to be cheap.
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Old 11-08-2018, 12:45 AM #47
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Man does it look UGLY. Just get rid of the hopper feed. If I'm buying a magfed marker I have no use for a hopper. Knowing PE, it's not going to be cheap.
The Emek is 219.99, the rail kit for that gun is 65, so I bet this is 350 or less depending on how many mags it comes with/case/etc.
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Old 11-08-2018, 07:15 AM #48
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Any chance at a lower being sold separately? Bought the emek the week it came out (love it by the way), but I know I can't justify to the wife another full marker
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Old 11-08-2018, 07:48 AM #49
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Any chance at a lower being sold separately? Bought the emek the week it came out (love it by the way), but I know I can't justify to the wife another full marker
I'm pretty sure your EMEK/Etha2 inner or outer body will not fit on the the MG100 lower.

This requires the EMC kit.
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Old 11-08-2018, 08:21 AM #50
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Man does it look UGLY. Just get rid of the hopper feed. If I'm buying a magfed marker I have no use for a hopper. Knowing PE, it's not going to be cheap.
post #27 shows a picture of it without a feedneck.
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Old 11-08-2018, 08:26 AM #51
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Man does it look UGLY. Just get rid of the hopper feed. If I'm buying a magfed marker I have no use for a hopper. Knowing PE, it's not going to be cheap.
Yeah, their $225 “rental” marker is super spendy.
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Old 11-08-2018, 08:46 AM #52
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Old 11-08-2018, 08:46 AM #53
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Man does it look UGLY. Just get rid of the hopper feed. If I'm buying a magfed marker I have no use for a hopper. Knowing PE, it's not going to be cheap.
The hopper feed comes off if you are playing MagFed.

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Old 11-08-2018, 09:04 AM #54
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Old 11-08-2018, 09:50 AM #55
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I suspect due to the body and frame being different from either the EMEK or the Etha 2 they will not be offering this as anything but a full marker.
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Old 11-08-2018, 10:12 AM #56
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I suspect due to the body and frame being different from either the EMEK or the Etha 2 they will not be offering this as anything but a full marker.
While I don't disagree this will probably be a stand alone gun, it's based off the Emek, Emek is in the name, and the Emek and Etha 2 are super similar.
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Old 11-08-2018, 10:22 AM #57
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body kit is different (based off EMC sure so the extenders or add ones will work but not the main body).

Also the gamma core housing will have to be different to accept either feed neck or bottom load.

I didn't even realize at first that this version of the emek will be like a TMC, able to switch from magfed to hopper fed... That makes this even more awesome.
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Old 11-08-2018, 10:29 AM #58
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body kit is different (based off EMC sure so the extenders or add ones will work but not the main body).
The whole body looks identical to the current Etha 2 EMC to me.

EDIT: Obviously the core metal body will be different for the bottom feed though
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Old 11-08-2018, 11:03 AM #59
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The whole body looks identical to the current Etha 2 EMC to me.

EDIT: Obviously the core metal body will be different for the bottom feed though
I think you're right that the core emc kit could fit it. Which is great. I have an EMC kit, it looks like the bottom kind of overlays the body a bit in the picture for the magwell, but it does look appropriately spaced.
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Old 11-08-2018, 11:05 AM #60
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I think you're right that the core emc kit could fit it. Which is great. I have an EMC kit, it looks like the bottom kind of overlays the body a bit in the picture for the magwell, but it does look appropriately spaced.
I also have an EMC kit, but the thing is if this is only sold as a complete marker (like the EMEK) then having an EMC kit already isn't an advantage.
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Old 11-08-2018, 11:58 AM #61
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I don't want to speak for them, but this is likely to be only a full gun... mainly because of the enormous hole in the bottom of the breach, and certain other little details.

p.s. I've been running a prototype for months now, and honestly... it's awesome. The stock barrel leaves people wondering where the heck I am. It's efficient as hell, almost zero kick at all (soooo smooth gamma core), I have had ZERO breaks/jams with paint and no jams/breaks/flips with FSR even when people using the same FSRs were struggling. Strong springs, light springs, 20 round, 10 rounds it didn't matter... this thing is an absolutely magfed workhorse.

Additionally... it works excellently with the Nemesis barrel. I was using it at Kilo 69. I almost didn't even take a back up of any sort as I was that confident in it.

Trust me. You're gonna want to buy one.

I'm still keeping all my more milsim guns, they have aspects I like, but this is becoming my main marker tbh.
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Old 11-08-2018, 01:21 PM #62
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Using dam mags: awesome, finally a little standardisation!

EMEK based: excellent platform.

Chance this'll lead to more development of the DAM magazine (continuous?)

Potential for future electro version... hgngngngn
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