[John]

Sorry for the confusion guys. There is no mech frame for the LV.

[Gigalisk]

Did planet eclipse just have a whole lot of ideas stored in an attic somewhere?? They're going to eat everybody until the LV2 comes out and then eat some more PE ROCKS

[Kazer]

Originally Posted by Gigalisk

Did planet eclipse just have a whole lot of ideas stored in an attic somewhere?? They're going to eat everybody until the LV2 comes out and then eat some more PE ROCKS

Jack and his team are doing big things right now!

[mcmski]

Originally Posted by imped4now

There is no LV frame. A mechanical LV wouldn't work nearly as well as you'd like it to since you'd lose all or most dwell control.

To explain - the mechanical actuator valve (in place of the solenoid) used in the CS2 mech frame applies the "LV1 lever valve concept" to it. While I haven't seen a detailed breakdown of this yet, I'm guessing there's a lever somewhere between the trigger and valve to allow a shorter/lighter pull, thanks to a mechanical advantage offered by the lever. Or perhaps I'm wrong, we'll wait for an explanation.

That makes sense. I thought it could work reasonably well if there was a mechanical 3way that worked at a fixed dwell after being tripped by the trigger and resets in a known time. The rest of the tuning would be handed by the lpr and light vs heavy rammer.

I'm sure if it was that easy someone would have done it by now.

I thought a hinge trigger could essentially already achieve this lever mechanical advantage but I'm sure PE has found a way to refine it.

Originally Posted by John

Sorry for the confusion guys. There is no mech frame for the LV.

my fault John, I was looking for something that wasn't there.

[Nor Cal Shocker]

Ok have to ask again....

PRICE POINT on the frame?????

[hscpaintballa]

Wondering if this is faster than the m170r

[Featherlite 07]

Originally Posted by hscpaintballa

Wondering if this is faster than the m170r

probably, sounds like they made the trigger nicer

[Mr. Charlie]

Yeah,

This new Lever Trigger Frame should definitely be able to be set up for a quicker trigger pull than the CVO.

And the race is still on...

[Featherlite 07]

this is making me rethink my desire for a cvo for sure

[PBSales]

I think it is cool they used an autococker trigger sear.

[Banko]

Finally, PE is a bit slow to release but, better late then never.....

[Fosterk33]

Originally Posted by Nor Cal Shocker

Ok have to ask again....

PRICE POINT on the frame?????

Fish had mentioned somewhere in the $225 range

[k1rage]

Originally Posted by Fosterk33

Fish had mentioned somewhere in the $225 range

Pricy little buggers

[y0ung_m0n3y]

I for one Would pay more for a kit with a reg assembly, and pops ASA so changing back and forth would be a breeze with all of 2 screws.

[k1rage]

Originally Posted by y0ung_m0n3y

I for one Would pay more for a kit with a reg assembly, and pops ASA so changing back and forth would be a breeze with all of 2 screws.

Yeah I'm in for that, would be wonderful

[imped4now]

Originally Posted by y0ung_m0n3y

I for one Would pay more for a kit with a reg assembly, and pops ASA so changing back and forth would be a breeze with all of 2 screws.

I concur.

I think it's logical to make this an "a la carte" type of package:

Frame only for $X

-Add ASA/HPR assembly for $Y

Or not. Either way, I'm buying it and I don't even have a CS2. Yet.

[hth_1]

Originally Posted by y0ung_m0n3y

I for one Would pay more for a kit with a reg assembly, and pops ASA so changing back and forth would be a breeze with all of 2 screws.

To be fair, I think you can piece together an asa, and reg assembly by just buying the spare parts from eclipse or from a dealer. This is a very hit up your local field or eclipse dealer and ask for parts kinda deal. Unless you live in Canada, then GOOD LUCK BUD

I literally waited 18 months to get one stupid reg filter, I really wish the support is better at least in places not called lower Ontario or Québec. That is honestly my only real gripe with Eclipse.

[k1rage]

Originally Posted by imped4now

I concur.

I think it's logical to make this an "a la carte" type of package:

Frame only for $X

-Add ASA/HPR assembly for $Y

Or not. Either way, I'm buying it and I don't even have a CS2. Yet.

Doesn't have a CS2, buys one just for the mech conversion...

[y0ung_m0n3y]

Originally Posted by imped4now

I concur.

I think it's logical to make this an "a la carte" type of package:

Frame only for $X

-Add ASA/HPR assembly for $Y

Or not. Either way, I'm buying it and I don't even have a CS2. Yet.

That would be the logical thing to do. Give the consumer a choice.

Originally Posted by hth_1

To be fair, I think you can piece together an asa, and reg assembly by just buying the spare parts from eclipse or from a dealer. This is a very hit up your local field or eclipse dealer and ask for parts kinda deal. Unless you live in Canada, then GOOD LUCK BUD

I literally waited 18 months to get one stupid reg filter, I really wish the support is better at least in places not called lower Ontario or Québec. That is honestly my only real gripe with Eclipse.

Jack asked for feedback regarding the reg/pops option for the kits. Just figured I’d get the ball rolling in here.

[Big Papa Pink]

If I could get a frame with the Pops and reg, I would be willing to pay more.

[AlWoods]

Bit more insight into the frame and trigger mechanism right here, plus, some other stuff you may have seen:

PBE 2020 Product Overview FB LiiiiVE