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Old 04-05-2001, 12:44 AM #1
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Francios from Toxictoys also the cheeseball in charge of the Tribal fiasco has had all his Ebay auctions shut down. Kinda odd huh?

And the guns he sold to somepeople were not even new!
And I bet the people who never got their guns back those were the ones he was selling on EBAY.(source Tinkes Guild http://network54.com/Hide/Forum/9013)

The best Advice is not to get too in love with Tribals.
Tribal has all but gone bye-bye. Many stores and tech have sent markers back to Toxictoys for warreny work and have never gotten them back, over 6 months. All there emails have gone unanswered.

Toxic Toys is also the ones responsible for the Joker and unrelased Urban(Basically a spyder with electro frame).

There are also at least one law suit filled agains Toxic toys.

The best option is to go with a BM2K, same design with proven support and designs. THe 4th Gen bushys have removed alot of the features people didn't like (Added an battery door)

But again if the tech support and such don't matter then you could go with a tribal.
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Old 04-05-2001, 02:11 AM #2
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A note of interest

The web site for the Urban (A toxic toys Creation) is now a porn site.
Sort of ironic. Its what he is doing to the Tribal owners.
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Old 04-10-2001, 12:06 AM #3
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Question

Just to show Toxic toys is going, try and find a tribal on any of the big online stores.
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Old 04-13-2001, 11:57 AM #4
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yeah toxic toys has really screwed them selfs over with tribal. I would know. I bought a new fluster it worked for a month and then just shut down. I would fix the solinoid then the ram wouldnt work. Then i would clean that and the AOC went wacko. Oh well just going to get my money back. I had a good twister but sold it. Not all tribals are bad guns.
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Old 04-16-2001, 04:56 AM #5
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toxic had nothing to do with the joker, diablo is involved with that. And the joker is a nice gun, I have shot a few.
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Old 04-23-2001, 11:13 AM #6
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then how come franc as selling some on ebay?
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Old 04-23-2001, 03:25 PM #7
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becuase toxic used to distribute them.
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Old 04-24-2001, 11:37 PM #8
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Red face Listen up......

First off Piccolo, Diablo only DISTRIBUTED Joker. It was manufactured by Diamond Labs/ LES Industries, the head of the company was Francois Louvet. Francois and several other key people killed Joker and resurfaced as Toxic Toys. Toxic Toys manufactured the Tribal in Bulgaria and shipped it to 2 major disribution sites in Europe before shipping them into the U.S.
Francois and his clowns pulled the joker disappearing act again with Tribal and planned to reappear as Urban in the Chicago area..... Once here Francois unloaded all his trash on eBay, Jokers as well as Tribals.
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Old 04-25-2001, 12:40 AM #9
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thank you for the information, i told only what I knew, now I know more.
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Cool It's Toxic...... that sez it all.

I wish more people knew about Francois when he began Tribal... But even then he used Renick Miller & Danny Love as the Tribal poster boyz. To be completely honest, the reason I know so much is I once purchased a Joker & a Tribal. (at seperate times) I resold both guns in less than a month after buying new. I even spoke directly with Francois when he first started with Tribal. That's how I got some of my info.... directly from him.
My advise, if you like the marker and can make your own repairs great. Otherwise stay clear of Jokers, Tribals and the Urban (if it ever shows up).
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Old 04-28-2001, 04:19 PM #11
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has anyone found out the link between Boo-yah and tribal. It seems like there would be one since all their barrel adds say Autococker/Tribal and I have never seen a company market barrels for the tribal.
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that is because tribals take cocker threads
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Old 06-16-2001, 07:23 PM #13
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That is not my point, the adds actually mentoin Tribals. Now if I owned a company that was making a barrel with autococker threads I would not list some small, not often used marker which has a small market base in my adds. I would mention only the major markers. I was pointing out that maybe Boo-yah is closely related to Tribal since they mention them in adds.
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Old 06-19-2001, 08:50 AM #14
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there is a link...

i will say no more
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Old 06-19-2001, 11:13 PM #15
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their the same comapny... I know this for fact..they wher also the joker company that made those stupid joker guns that screwd diablo..Im told that the boo yah triggers share some of the same electronics as the tribal as well. Its just that everyone is trying to keep the whole thing hush hush... pretty much everyone in the industrie knows about the whole situation too.
these guys are amazing.. they rip off other comapnys ideas and manufacture them over sea,s to make a quik buck..then when the product turns to crap they shut down and copy somthing else and re-open under a different name. remember the urben eletronic gun?? same company ..wonder what happend to those people..hoom... have I ben burned by these people?? oh hell yah and I make it a point to know what name their doing biss under as much as possible to see to it that I dont get burned agien.
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Old 06-24-2001, 12:54 AM #16
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I believe BeSales manufactured the Joker. It is a DIRECT knock off of the Inferno, but works LESS.

Procaps has about 1000 jokers kickin around in their factory.

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Old 06-24-2001, 01:25 PM #17
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nope they ripped besales off..they had them at the world cup a few years ago and beslaes was their and wher real p!st about it. Problem is they couldnt do anything becuase the inferno patent was,nt a U.S. patent and joker had a few differences then the inferno..not many but a few. this is what this company does their like vampires ..they suck off other peolpes ideas and try to resell them for a cheaper cost..they make a few good proto types to get a distributor to byuy them then once they have the deal sighned they cut but on qaulity on the rest of the order...
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