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Old 05-25-2002, 08:10 PM #1
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Matrix vs. Impulse

I don't know which one i should get, i don't like how the matrix has all those o-rings, however i heard it's the most accurate gun on the market, is this true? Plz tell me which is better and why. Thanks.
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Old 05-25-2002, 10:31 PM #2
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That's a bunch of BS. The Impulse shoots fine. The Matrix is a GREAT gun, but the problem is it's a MAJOR gas hog. Think refilling a 68/3000 after every single game. Really, really, really eats up the gas faster than any gun you could possibly imagine.

If refilling is an issue for you, go with the Impulse. Otherwise, choose whichever gun you prefer.
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Old 05-25-2002, 11:12 PM #3
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accuracy is all paint/barrel match, consistancy, velocity, weather conditions, condition of paint used... nothing else.
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Old 05-25-2002, 11:13 PM #4
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well then which gun has better consistency?
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Old 05-25-2002, 11:48 PM #5
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that depends on the reg and tank being used
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Old 05-26-2002, 12:18 AM #6
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If it were me, I would go with an Impulse and use the extra money saved from not buying the Matrix and spend it on a good reg and some other stuff.
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Old 05-26-2002, 08:23 AM #7
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does CO2 have decent consistency? is HPA a much better consistency for the impulse or matrix?
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Old 05-26-2002, 09:30 AM #8
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Well if you get the bolt kit for the matix, and get s decent 4500 tank then your ganna get enough shots to be happy with like 1300 or something like that.
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well....

well this is the perfect question cause my friend has a nice impulse set up with a list of upgrades. And when it comes down to GUN to GUN my matrix shoots a LITTLE FASTER like 1 or two balls. But it NEVER CHOPS and his impulse HARDLY does but the matrix NEVER does. So you make the choice....matrix is like 300 bucks mroe though
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i don't get it tho, if you shoot really fast and the bolt hits a ball when it's half way in the chamber, then how can it not chop? I'm also getting the vision w/ the impulse if i do get one so it won't really matter but im still curious. I'm am really being tuggeda between these two guns!!!! Help me plz! just tell me! Do they have any delrin bolts for the Matrix or only SS? Zman you must have shot both, give me your honest opinion on which has less kick, is lighter etc. Also include what uprades your friend has so i know how light it is. Thanks!
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with the bolt kit the matrix's cocking pressure is too low to chop a ball. Instead it "bounces" off of the bolt
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holy crap! even with hellfire's brittle, brittle paint?
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well....i likethe matrix more....its smoother quiter quicker and more accurate. I dont care what ppl say if me and my friend shoot at the deck i will be more accurate then him. To tell y0ou the truth i would go with a matirx...its a higher end gun. and you dont need alllist of upgrades to make it perform at its best. YOu get a matrix.....trinity and thats all you need. YOu wont chop it shoots fast...it shoots str8 its great. THe impulse on the other hand is cheaper in price shoots quick too and has a little more heavier. little more kick too. go w/a trix...good luck
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i wanted to make sure that you understood what i said....i am not taking anything away from a impulse....they can do the same job of a matrix but IMO i just like the feel of a matrix...even though it has little improvements over the imp.
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If you bolted the guns down, you can say that accuracy is a function of paint-barrel match and stuff.

But that isn't how we play, we run, stand, kneel, sit or whatever with our markers, and things like weight, kick and 'fell' all affect accuracy. That's why a lot of people claim the Matrix (I would put myself in this category) is an accurate gun.
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if you blind fold the person shooting it will be just as accurate as any other gun, right?
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If you bolted the guns down, you can say that accuracy is a function of paint-barrel match and stuff.

But that isn't how we play, we run, stand, kneel, sit or whatever with our markers, and things like weight, kick and 'fell' all affect accuracy. That's why a lot of people claim the Matrix (I would put myself in this category) is an accurate gun.
but that's only your personal ability to play with that gun making it more accurate than others... not the gun itself
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"weight, kick and 'fell' [I mean't Feel] all affect accuracy"

Not one of those is your person ability, so I ask.. what are you talking about? hehe


If you take your BE Stingray and find a good match with it's stock barrel, take a Matrix with a good match and it's stock barrel, and try and fire 10 shots at a target quickly (like you'd shoot in a tourney) well you can't honestly say the BE would be as accurate as the Matrix. Bolt them down, then yeah probably. Try standing and aiming and shooting, you'd be affected by the Stingrays long, hard trigger and it's trigger.

Yeah so that's taking it to the extreme. An Impulse compared to a Matrix wouldn't be so far different, but you here a lot of comments about he Matrix being 'accurate' and while theortically, bolted down, that might not be true, in Real Life, where it counts, not all these people are lying to us, and the Matrix is an accurate gun, more so than many others.
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i should have mentioned this but i was talkin about how you play(we run, stand, kneel, sit or whatever) thats the way you play and some people play different and may play well with certain guns and not others and other people may be the oposite, but the feel of a gun is your own personal opinion. i was not talking about kick and weight and so on...
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I didn't say that sitting or kneeling, the difference between the two had anything to do with accuracy. (They probably do, but that's like you said.. the way you play affecting it)

I was saying benching a marker, or playing with it... they aren't the same, because of those other factors, that don't rely on playing style.. just.. playing...
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Two different Markers, same barrel, same consistency, same paint, same accuracy. It's been proven time and time again. AGD did many tests on this as did many other companies and review sites. They always end up with the same exact results. After that you'll looking at each person's personal ability to hold the marker steady.

When bolted down it will be exactly the same accuracy. So saying that one's marker is more accurate than another can be an accurate statement. But if that same marker is given to somebody with less than steady hands and a lower ability they will shoot less accurately. It's just simply logic.

Now... If you shoot a Stingray along with a Matrix alongside each other with the same barrel, same consistency, same air system, same paint, and they're both bolted down. They will shoot exactly the same. Yes, the Matrix will shoot faster, but they will be just as accurate as each other.

I know most of this is hard to understand by some of you guys that don't like to accept the facts... but for those of us that can take the truth and keep going then cool shiznit.

Oh, and my take, pick up the one that you feel most comfortable with dude... Some people swear by the feel of an Angel, others swear by Spyders (yes they exist, but that's a whole other argument guys, don't get started on that one). It's all personal preference.
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