shot a defiant 2 today and it was really nice....i dont know but if i cant get a cyborg i might just get one of them...ony ling im not liking is how techna triggers wont work in them

it didnt have much kik to it at all...they only thing you really feel is a liittle bit if muzle rise on it but not enough that you woudnt be able to control it....size....if you put you hand in front of you with all fingers next to eachother....its about like that...maybe a 1/2 inch longer....this is directed to the taller people tho, midgets hands will still find this gun to by huge