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Old 03-29-2005, 03:22 PM #1
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05 speed or Proto Matrix

Torn between 2 guns.

Just want to know what gun is better in:

1)speed

2)air efficiancy

3)price to performance

4)overall

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Old 03-29-2005, 03:28 PM #2
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WDP forum. We'll pick the speed. I actually did a thread almost JUST like this a while ago in an unbiased forum, and 80% of the responses were pro speed.
The 05s have a MUCH better trigger in my opinion, it's very efficient(VERY VERY efficient with the evolve kit). As for price to performance, think about the A4 FLY, or the G7. There is very little difference as far as performance between those guns and the 05, yet the 05 is 400-500 dollars cheaper than either. Christ, it's an ANGEL. Nuff said.
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Old 03-29-2005, 03:56 PM #3
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Speed. I have three teamates that shoot Protos. Two were bad out of the box, one had a bad reg the other needed all the o-rings replaced. They take very good care of their guns but have to replace the o-rings and re-lubed everything after shooting 1 case of paint. Protos are not very efficient. They do shoot very well with little kick and rip with the tadeo board. I rarely ever have to touch my fly, with the exception of chrono'ing. But some folks have had Angels bad out of the box too.
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Old 03-29-2005, 04:01 PM #4
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5peed no doubt. Who wants a dumbed down DM4? 5peeds are ultra efficient, and who doesnt like the new 5peed triggers?

Hottseckszy.

WDP Forum tho=biased opinions.
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Old 03-29-2005, 06:06 PM #5
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Old 03-29-2005, 07:11 PM #6
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yea, that was my choice of guns that i was going to buy and i went with the speed 05.
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Old 03-29-2005, 07:47 PM #7
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05 Speed for sure
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Old 03-29-2005, 07:48 PM #8
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Old 03-29-2005, 10:11 PM #9
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havent had great experiences with the 05 speed, im going to have to vote proto for this one
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Old 03-29-2005, 11:25 PM #10
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i have an 05 speed came perfect out of the box!a nd it rips like mad and run circles arounds the protos with ease
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Old 03-30-2005, 01:59 AM #11
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5peed.... when you get the evolve kit, you can hang it on something and pull the trigger and the gun wont move. i get a case out of my 68/45 xfire stubby.
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Old 03-30-2005, 08:55 PM #12
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speed i had to make that choice and i am happyu i went with the speed but get a 45
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Old 03-30-2005, 09:07 PM #13
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Old 03-30-2005, 09:28 PM #14
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05 Speed for sure

i almost beat the s*it out off you!


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Old 03-30-2005, 10:38 PM #15
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dont get me wrong the speed is a good gun i have owned one and i have played a whole lot with protos ad the sspeed is good. The proto is good. i would go proto if u are up to the matience.

speed; fast, louder, no matience,

proto: quite just aas fast little matience.

i love angels i have a jd fly and just sold my speed but the proto just feels better to me in my hands.
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Old 03-31-2005, 12:10 AM #16
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Old 03-31-2005, 09:18 AM #17
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proto trix is fuggly but fast,i would recomend getting the 05 speed
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Old 03-31-2005, 02:59 PM #18
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What You Should Do Is Go Out And Find Some People That Have A Proto And Someone Who Has An 05 Speed And Ask If You Can Shoot It... Then Compare The Two And Take What You Like Better
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Old 03-31-2005, 03:11 PM #19
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speed, its nicer

plus protos look like short fat kids would... if they were pb guns
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Old 03-31-2005, 06:20 PM #20
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proto for sure. shot both. own a angel. proto is the better gun.
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Old 03-31-2005, 07:05 PM #21
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i have an 05 speed and my friend has a proto.....and ive played wit his proto and it just doesnt compare!
the proto trigger is s0o0o0o garbage it aint even funny!
and if u set up ur 05 speed right it wont have much more kick than a proto/dm4/dm5.....and if u do some minor mods it will have less kick....like mine....lol
my 05 speed mows and my friends proto is slower and has more kick believe it or not.....my 05 speed has NO kick at all thats y it has less kick......my delrin hammer is workin greeeaaaat!.....lol
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