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Old 05-09-2002, 09:42 PM #1
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Talking Looks Like Lockout Is Using The Smaller Race 5 Way

Looks that way.......Ethan?

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Old 05-09-2002, 10:11 PM #2
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Any chance we can get a better pic? Is there going to be an upgrade available?
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i dont believe thats the new noid the new ones are black and ive seen pictures of them and that really doesnt look like the new noid.
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Old 05-09-2002, 10:32 PM #4
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mmm

well whatever it is it's smaller, if you cut the guard like it is in the picture the 5 way is exposed
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Old 05-09-2002, 10:37 PM #5
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not nessarly they could have the noids in a new mounting bracket and have it laying on the side.
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Talking Hmm

Well whatever the case may be it's different. Normally there's one hose on top and two on the bottom and in the picture it looks reversed. Maybe they flipped the noid and mounted it further back so that it's closer to the front block.
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sorry I take that back Josh just told me that is the new noid.
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Yes there are 3 solenoids. There is the current one, and a smaller one, and a smallest one. The one in the pic is the middle. The Largest is the most robust and has the smallest watts used I believe. The one in the middle is being tested, I think is flows very well but has higher battery consumtion, and the third is very small, but doesn't flow as well as either of the other two. This is all very new, and I can't get pricing yet, so please don't ask me.

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Old 05-10-2002, 08:21 AM #9
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New Front Block...

Rene (the sales guy from Racegun) was showing these in Vegas at the booth. They're selling the whole front block as a kit. The way Rene explained it to me, the guard didn't seem to be available separately...it's integrated into the block. I may be wrong though. Anyway, the front block comes with Palmers Rock (or mini-rock) and Palmers ram.

It looked pretty sweet...

The half-block cockers were the shiznit though. Anybody have one yet?

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There is a full front block being made, that has a full cover for the 5-way, but Rene didn't even have #'s him self to give me. Nicely made and that is what comes stock on the Half-Block, Also with Palmer front Pnues. The guard and the block are 1 piece, made out of the same chunk of Aluminum.

As for the Half-Block, I will be getting 5 of the first this next 2-3 weeks. And yes they are so fine. I was up playing with it and asking Mats all about it and cockers in general on Friday night till 2 am. Very well made gun. Mats is a true craftsman.

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Question Hey Josh...

This is probably a pretty basic question...but how do they cock the hammer on the half-blocks? I didn't think about it until after I left on Sunday. Is there some mechanism under the cocking block that catches and recocks the hammer since the cocking rod is now no longer available?

Sorry if it's a dumb question...enlighten me!

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Gutt,

The cocking rod will be there, Mats was putting it on the silver one on Saturday. The cocking rod is connected to the Block by two small set screws inside the Block, so it looks nice and clean. The Block has a lug that matches a groove in the hammer. It is designed not to wear out.

Also this allows the bolt to rotate out of the way of the breech, like on an angel, and the block has a notch so you can twist the bolt if it gets shell between it and the breech. Very well though out, and very light. The cocking mass of the bolt and block are less than a standard delrin bolt. Very light.

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Thanks...

Not quite visualizing it, but I understand the concept. Guess I'm going to have to see it to fully understand how it works. Thanks for the explanation. Let me know when you get some of those halfblocks in and what kinda $ we're talking about.

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They are going to be $1400 for the basic model. I know, kinda spendy, but imagine getting the grip and a DYE gun, and you have about the same price, and not hand crafted like this one. Also they should be in in about 1-2 weeks. Might have to keep one for "Demo" purposes............

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No cocking rod

HI guys,

The Halfblock does not have a cocking rod - Josh is thinking about the pump rod.

Anyway - yes the "backblock" has a pin that cocks the hammer when moving back.

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Talking Thanks Mort...

That makes more sense to me...that Josh guy is so stooooopid Look forward to seeing one with air on it at the next NPPL/PSP/whatever they call it.

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PS...Just kiddin' ya Josh. Look forward to meeting you sometime.
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DUH, I do feel stupid, I need to sleep more!

I shoudl be setting it up with RGP at Chicago. And I will make sure there is no coking rod, sheesh, man I feel dumb.

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Old 05-10-2002, 03:20 PM #18
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Don't Worry buddy

Cocking rod, Pump Rod, 3-way rod, Trigger rod there is way to many rods on a Cocker to worry about mixing up two of them !

Have a NICE weekend
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P.S. Come over here to Denmark for a month of factory training and we will design a gun without any ROD's at all - Do you want me to put beer in the fridge and fire up my mill ?

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Oh hell Ya!

Wait, did Hans show you my little surprise? You might want to take a peek at it, and If things go as planned, I might just get to come over to your flat nation.

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well with all this custom cockers talk going around. ima be putting out a body soon ima be hand working it no mill. I dout I will produce them just for a challenge.
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Josh what kind of surprise are you talking about?
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