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03-01-2005, 05:35 PM
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The OnE Only WiCkY
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Fort Myers, Florida
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MONGOOSE FAQ & Diablo Links
 ONE STOP UPGRADES FOR THE MONGOOSE I & II 
NOTE: Some Upgrades don't work in the Mongoose BBS
Diablo Mongoose I & II History Provided by:[NA]WARLORD
The Mongoose is a M3 Black Dragun copy (it was originally designed by Twisted Paintball, as the M3 BD Factory gun, only 13 ever made, but Twisted and M3 had a fall out, therefore, Twisted went to Gino @ NPS, sold the rights of manufacture to him, then released it under the Diablo name) it uses the old M92 frame, the same frame the old Black Draguns used
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Mongoose I & II Factory Part's Link & Link
Mongoose/ Mongoose LCD/ Reincarnation schematics-- Link
Mongoose BBS LCD manual --Link
Mongoose BBS LED manual --Link
How to Change Mode's for LCD Diablo Mongoose Reincarnation II (By inimicaljords)link Works & Recomended
Mongoose I & II Genral tech help(by paintballolutions) --Link
Mongoose disassembly and cleaning--Link
Mongoose II trigger removal (video) -- Link
Dip Switch Settings Link
FAQ's
Q: Can you use any other feednecks on the Mongoose?
A: Yes, IF you have a threaded feedneck you can use Angel feednecks. Link (Confirmed by: weeeethoma)
Q.What is the barrel thread type?
A. It has Spyder threading.
Q. How do you adjust the trigger?
A. Link
Q. Can I lower or higher the Operating Pressure?
A. Yes ~~>Link
Q. Should I oil my Delrin Bolt.
A. No never oil you Derlin Bolt it will swell and will cause problems only the O-Ring(s) an use very little like a drop or less...
Q. Having recocking problems?
A. Read this thread to help you LInk
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-The Zip Kit
"The Zip Kit is an upgrade kit that will convert a standard stacked tube blow-back marker into an electro pneumatic air ram marker.
The Zip Kit will upgrade slim striker bodied Spyders, Spyder clones, etc "
This kit will fit the Mongoose just fine, plus it replaces all the internals, as well as the front block, regulator and the grip frame. It works on all the Clones. Dragun originally designed it as the "ONE" kit, but since they are no longer around, someone else redesigned and re-released it. It's also compatible with the T-1/ T Board. You may find a used one now days(Confirmed by [NA]WARLORD)[/size]
- Frame grips
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Dye Sticky 3 Link
(Only works for LED models & Will need a little modifying around the solenoid)
-Triggers
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Check It Sweet Spot link
(Will need a little modifying)
Shocktech Trigger Link
-Trigger Frames
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Spyder Rocking Trigger Link (Confirmed by Wickdchyld & Honaker)
(Will need minimal modifying)
-Trigger Board
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Which T-board to get? Link
T-Board Link
-Ball Detent
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Cocker Ball Detents Link
-Springs Kit's
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32° Degrees Spring Kit Link
Madman Spring Kit for spyder Link
Shochtech Spring Kit Link
-Bolts
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Shocktech super fly rear cocking Link(Confirmed by honaker91)Will need modifying for Mongoose BBS
Shocktech super fly top cocking bolt Link(Confirmed by Wickdchyld)Will need modifying for Mongoose BBS
JAM Enterprise- The Intimidator Anti-Chop Bolt [size=1](The "no more tears" bolt)Your lucky to find it anymore (Confirmed by jjdustr340)
Evil Timmy Bolt Link You'll have to pull the front o-ring off, I lubed it pretty good, and had to trim the little rod that u grab to re-cock the gun so it didnt hit the spring.
-Low Pressure Valves
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Maddman Rocket Valve Link
32° Degrees Turbo Valve Link
-Switchs
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Micro Switch Link
25.gm
50.gm
-Barrels
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12" Progressive Barrel
Black Smart Parts 14" Progressive
Evil Driver Barrel
Empire Twister 16" Barrel
14" SP All American 2 piece
14" boom stick
J&J 14'' ceramic
-Vertical Adapter
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Check It Products 15° Assault Block Link
(Also includes a port on the side for a gauge to display your operating pressure. Accepts all standard Low Pressure Chambers.)
Expansion Chambers
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32° Degrees Expansion Chamber Link
Drop Forward
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32° Degrees Large Drop Forward Link
Shocktech Drop Forward Link
FBM Stiletto Drop Link
FBM Stiletto Drop with On/Off Link Call them
FBM Thorn Drop with On/Off Link Call them
-Regulators
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Black Bob Long Torpedo Regulator Link
Evil Detonator Link
Palmer's Stabilizer Link
-Adapter
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For the Rocking trigger to work with the stock Drop Forward you will need this adapter. Link
Misc. Diablo links:
Join the Legion
Diablo Picture Thread
How to post pics in the pic thread
Diablo video thread
Register yourself on the Diablo map
Diablo photoshop thread
Pictoral history of Diablo guns
Ever wonder what the guys answering your questions look like?
~NOTE~Note:IF there a LOST or DEAD link please report it to me in a PM.... Thanks
Last edited by Wickdchyld : 08-04-2007 at 07:28 PM.
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03-02-2005, 06:00 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Lebanon, Pennsylvania
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This is very helpful. I would sticky this.
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03-13-2005, 03:13 PM
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Blue name = Mod, fella!
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Home of the Buckeyes!!
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Nice job Wickd. Just one thing...add a link to the Jam Bolt, it works too!
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03-24-2005, 06:23 PM
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What?
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Done.
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03-24-2005, 11:06 PM
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Snausages
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True, I see what you mean now. My bad. This is a very helpful list. I actually have a question for you. Would you be able to buy just a new Dropforward/ASA without buying a new regulator?
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Last edited by DarkSideXIII : 03-25-2005 at 12:27 PM.
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03-26-2005, 10:15 AM
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but what feednecks fit the mongoose?
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03-26-2005, 11:52 PM
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WotWor
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Canada
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For barrels, you could just put "any spyder threaded barrel".
Good thread
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03-27-2005, 09:24 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: 2-5, gang territory
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wickdchyld, does that spyder rocking work that good, how fast does it shoot? i have herd good and bad stuff about it
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03-27-2005, 10:13 AM
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The OnE Only WiCkY
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Fort Myers, Florida
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Quote:
Originally posted by trigerhppydiablo
wickdchyld, does that spyder rocking work that good, how fast does it shoot? i have herd good and bad stuff about it
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I think that the Rocking trigger is that good. How fast is it well how fast can you walk a trigger? i feel you limited to the speed of your own fingers. for me I would say i can walk 5x's faster then the full auto 13. It's hella fast but with that said if i would have known that Scenario Dreams Rick'n grip frame with the t-board I would have bought that one Link
But I'm totally happy with my setup and it fires super fast. I took video of it and posted it in the Official Diablo video thread, check it out...
Edit : trigerhppydiablo will you do us a favor and combine your post in to one and delete the other one. Also can you provide a link to that board & barrel Thanks
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Last edited by Wickdchyld : 03-27-2005 at 10:16 AM.
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03-28-2005, 09:44 AM
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yup.
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: PA
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Since almost all spyder parts are compatible, I took the duty upon myself to link the spyder upgrade thread. Make it easy for Dre and keep that thread clean from ueless posts 
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03-28-2005, 10:52 AM
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Does anyone know what grips u can get for the spyder rocking trigger??
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All American Freak barrel kit (blue front)
EVO 2 hopper
Torpedo reg
shocktech drop
empire on/off
Pure Enegy 68ci tank
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04-01-2005, 09:53 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: seattle
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u guys know if a st super fly alias imtimadator bolt would work just pm me
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04-02-2005, 04:07 PM
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The OnE Only WiCkY
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Fort Myers, Florida
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Quote:
Originally posted by XDiAbLoX
Does anyone know what grips u can get for the spyder rocking trigger??
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Yes, the Dye Stickys 3 with the one up two down hole pattern.
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AIC: My gift of self is raped My privacy is raked And
yet I find And yet I find Repeating in my head If I can't be my own I'd feel better dead!
<((¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸))•\(vv)/•(¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸))>
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04-03-2005, 03:01 AM
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WotWor
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Canada
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one up two down?
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DBD
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04-03-2005, 08:24 AM
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The OnE Only WiCkY
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Fort Myers, Florida
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Quote:
Originally posted by Stupified
one up two down?
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It's the screw pattern.
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AIC: My gift of self is raped My privacy is raked And
yet I find And yet I find Repeating in my head If I can't be my own I'd feel better dead!
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04-03-2005, 10:09 AM
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yup.
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: PA
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one up = there is one screw hole on the top.
two down = there are two screw holes on the bottom.
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04-03-2005, 09:54 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Sunny FLA !!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: *Upgrade List* Mongoose II
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Originally posted by Wickdchyld
Note: if i got something wrong please let me know so i can fix it
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The stabilizer should be moved to the regulator, because thats what it is, a regulator.
Also, Round Autococker detents and Angel Detents may solve your chopping issues, we use them on the Tes/T- 1, since we have the same problem with Halo's pushing paint past the stock ones. The ones you listed a link to, hex style, wont work, at least not on our guns, Diablo products may differ.
Lastly, there is an Electro Pnuematic kit on the market, that turns stacked tube blowbacks ( Spyder/M3/Dragun Clones ) into Electro pnuematic guns, loke the Timmy's, Pulses', etc.
http://www.custompbsolutions.com/ind...ROD&ProdID=593
Along with QEV's that help eliminate FSDO (or first shot drop off) that is associated with electro pnuematics.
http://shop.store.yahoo.com/paintbal...clipseqev.html
Also, there is an adapter (for those of you using the Dragun front block) to add a Cocker type LPR to the Zip kit:
http://www.zenitram-mfg.com/
As well as the infamous Dragun Tooth Trigger, which should fit the Mongoose frame, since itss an older M92 frame ( M3 Black Dragun ) make sure you select Black Dragun trigger.
Another Trigger manufacturer ( he will design any trigger style you want ):
http://www.freewebs.com/bettertriggers/index.htm
Last edited by [NA]WARLORD : 04-03-2005 at 10:40 PM.
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04-03-2005, 10:53 PM
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The OnE Only WiCkY
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Fort Myers, Florida
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Hey thanks for pointing that out.. I moved it to the right section.
I don't know what I was thinking... Thanks again
Also do you know and can confirm that the Modification will and do work on the Mongoose II? If not can you Please remove them until they are confirmed.
And the hex detents do work.
BTW: where in FLA are you im in Fort Myers
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AIC: My gift of self is raped My privacy is raked And
yet I find And yet I find Repeating in my head If I can't be my own I'd feel better dead!
<((¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸))•\(vv)/•(¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸))>
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04-03-2005, 11:32 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Sunny FLA !!!!!!!!!!!
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Quote:
Originally posted by Wickdchyld
Also do you know and can confirm that the Modification will and do work on the Mongoose II? If not can you Please remove them until they are confirmed.
BTW: where in FLA are you im in Fort Myers
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" The Zip Kit is an upgrade kit that will convert a standard stacked tube blowback marker into an electro pneumatic air ram marker.
The Zip Kit will upgrade slim striker bodied Spyders, Spyder clones, etc "
Since the Mongoose is a M3 Black Dragun copy ( it was origionally designed by Twisted Paintball, as the M3 BD Factory gun, only 13 ever made, but Twisted and M3 had a fall out, therefore, Twisted went to Gino @ NPS, sold the rights of manufacture to him, then relesed it under the Diablo name ) it uses the old M92 frame, the same frame the old Black Draguns used, therefore, this kit will fit the Mongoose just fine, plus it replaces all the internals, as well as the front block, regualtor and the grip frame. It works on all the Clones. Dragun origionally designed it as the "ONE" kit, but since they are no longer around, someone else redisigned and re-released it. It's also compatible with the T-1/ T Board.
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Originally posted by Wickdchyld
BTW: where in FLA are you
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Daytona Beach
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04-03-2005, 11:40 PM
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The OnE Only WiCkY
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Fort Myers, Florida
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Holy cow that information is something i want to know. I had no idea about that part of the history about Diablo Thanks for the Good information! 
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AIC: My gift of self is raped My privacy is raked And
yet I find And yet I find Repeating in my head If I can't be my own I'd feel better dead!
<((¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸))•\(vv)/•(¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸))>
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04-04-2005, 12:01 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Sunny FLA !!!!!!!!!!!
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Quote:
Originally posted by Wickdchyld
Holy cow that information is something i want to know. I had no idea about that part of the history about Diablo Thanks for the Good information!
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I got pics of the origional Twisted Factory guns, then you can compare them to the origional Mongoose and you can decide for yourself. Hit me up with a pm and your email addy, then you can post them here at the nation, if you like.
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