[GoldenBoy23IBSH]

looking into getting a pump, whats the best around?

[Kungpoopanda]

CCM>all pumps

[honculada]

Originally Posted by Kungpoopanda

CCM>all pumps

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[Elemental889]

Open Class - CCM
Stock Class - Carter Machine

But, if you're just getting into pump, I highly advise against getting either (since their guns run $600+). Buy/build a Sniper (pump cocker) and see if you like it first before you drop the money on a high end pump.

[paintballoliver]

As others said, I love my CCM best pump gun I have ever shot. However, if your budget does not allow, find a used Sniper for less, preferably having ccm internals.
Stock Class is a different story for me, I am one out of two people I have seen at my field that plays stock, and we both have phantoms. Love that gun so much,can't really say anything about other stock class guns as I have never used a Carter or a Palmers etc.

[Elemental889]

Originally Posted by paintballoliver

Stock Class is a different story for me, I am one out of two people I have seen at my field that plays stock, and we both have phantoms. Love that gun so much,can't really say anything about other stock class guns as I have never used a Carter or a Palmers etc.

I have a Phantom and a Carter (MiniComp). I love the Phantom. It's an incredible gun. But the Carter is even better. It's a lot smoother (due in large part to the dual pump rods), more efficient (40+ shots off a 12ie), and although its heavier, I find it much more balanced and comfortable to shoot. Of course, the cheapest Carters new are $500. But believe me when I say you get what you paid for.

[surealpaintballer]

Dont forget about the empire sniper, brand new for about the cost of a custom sniper build and much cheaper then a CCM, shoots phenominal and comes with a barrel kit.

[Mr Idiot Box]

Originally Posted by surealpaintballer

Dont forget about the empire sniper, brand new for about the cost of a custom sniper build and much cheaper then a CCM, shoots phenominal and comes with a barrel kit.

But it's not a CCM. There is a reason people wait in line for months and pay 2x-3x the cost of the average pump for a CCM product.

[$Praetorian$]

Don't dump $600 into a CCM until you try out a MVP.

The MVP has been my favorite marker of all time, and I've been playing far too long to finally find a gun I like.

[Sogamember666]

Unless you like a regulator to grip on, different pump handles and an abundance of parts.

[tlane77]

Get an Empire Sniper. For $300 you gt a great pump with a barrel kit.

Once you decide if you like it or not then drop some coin on a CCM.

[$Praetorian$]

Originally Posted by Sogamember666

Unless you like a regulator to grip on, different pump handles and an abundance of parts.

coming from using tons of semis with fore grips to a MVP, I really don't miss a fore grip, and the abundance of parts? Why need parts for something that is near perfection.

[Nolan 310]

get a check-it sniper, great gun, many options to upgrade if you decide too but really you dont need them, great price, easy to adapt to if you come from semi, if you need parts you can get them from anywhere, ccm and bob long mvp parts are hard to comeby

i would try them all out first and see what you are comfortable with, it is personal preference and all these people rely on auto-trigger so there gonna tell you ccm or whatever has auto-trigger

ccm and bob long mvp are way over priced

just saying!!!

[$Praetorian$]

I just like how comfortable my MVP is in my hands. I did have a Sniper with no AT, and I didn't mind it at all... love how easy it was to customize.

[Nolan 310]

Originally Posted by $Praetorian$

I just like how comfortable my MVP is in my hands. I did have a Sniper with no AT, and I didn't mind it at all... love how easy it was to customize.

in reality its all personal preference, what might feel good to me might not feel good to you, theres stuff i like about ccm and bob longs mvp but i been shooting a sniper for so long that its a part of my hand, i know how many balls i get per tank, i know exactly when the ball drops, i know how reliable it is, etc...

[Super69ur]

Stock Class - Carter Machine (any model, Ducks run upwards of $3000), RTR Gargoyle ($600-700, if you can find one, and it WILL be used), Avratech Retro7 ($700+), VKC Redux ($1100-$1350 used, $1600 new)

Open Class - Chipley Custom Machine (CCM, Any model $500 used $600-$800 new), Bob Long MVP ($700)

There is no "best" when comparing the above. It's all what you like better.

[sanguinarius]

mvp for a more reflex shot, sniper for longballing, phantom for light weight reliable stock class marker, and pgp for fun.

[kool_aid22]

ccm does everything better. im looking into pumps soon too and i gotta have a ccm pump.

what is everyones opinion about the bob long $700 pump? lol. also hear good things about the empire sniper

[sanguinarius]

i like my mvp, best "quick draw" gun i've ever had.

[$Praetorian$]

for how I play, the MVP is the best gun I have ever owned period. The only thing I'd change on my MVP is... well.. The Grips?

[sanguinarius]

why?