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Old 07-19-2016, 02:59 PM #1
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anyone still using 12g cartridges?

if you're using co2 cartridges, how do you store extras on gamedays? can you keep these in the car without risk of them overheating?
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Old 07-19-2016, 03:10 PM #2
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I'd personally never had a problem with them overheating and bursting, but that's not to say it couldn't happen.

I typically put them with my paint, as I wouldn't want my paint getting too hot either. Depending on the field, this could be on a table or outside my car or in a bag to be left just off the field of play.

Don't imagine anyone wants to steal my 12g carts.
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Old 07-19-2016, 03:41 PM #3
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On hot days, I keep a big cooler in the car for paint, 12ies, water, and lunch. Throw a freezer pack or two in there to keep the temp down.
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Old 07-19-2016, 05:14 PM #4
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Dont you want them to be somewhat warm tho to maximize vapor (vs liquid co2) coming out?
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Old 07-19-2016, 08:28 PM #5
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Yep, somewhat warm is good. But I don't want the temp varying wildly over the course of a day, because the pressure will rise with the temp, and with the way my Phantom is set up, I'd have to change springs if the minimum it shoots goes over the field limit. (It hasn't happened yet...maybe I'm worrying over nothing...)
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Old 07-19-2016, 08:56 PM #6
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I just put them in the box of paint I'm using for the day. Never had an issue. They don't pop from the heat like a CO2 tank burst disk. You want them warm to get efficiency.

On that Phantom Try a new silver spring. I can run mine on HPA or 12g with very little adjustment. Are you running aftermarket internals?

I'm running Silver spring with stock mirror polished internals getting 45+/- Shots @280 FPS with Lelands on a VSC setup as long as it's 70* or hotter.
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Old 07-19-2016, 09:58 PM #7
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On that Phantom Try a new silver spring. I can run mine on HPA or 12g with very little adjustment. Are you running aftermarket internals?

I'm running Silver spring with stock mirror polished internals getting 45+/- Shots @280 FPS with Lelands on a VSC setup as long as it's 70* or hotter.
I shoot around 260 with the TPC all the way out around 70*. Hence my concern about 12ies getting too warm. I get 35 useful shots starting at 280, plus or minus, on Crosman 12ies, VSC.

I'm running a silver spring and stock internals...I think. I bought most of the marker used, so I'm not 100% sure. It all looks stock to me...no fluted hammer or ported TPC. It does have an ASP Roundhead body and an undercocking kit...not sure if that would be relevant to velocity. Sounds like you're getting great results from your setup.
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Old 07-20-2016, 03:28 AM #8
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I just keep them in the gearbag. Never had a problem.
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Old 07-20-2016, 09:41 AM #9
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I leave them in the car. Haven't blown up yet.
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I have Leland 12g that's probably 6 years old.
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Warmer temp shouldn't increase your velocity much unless you have a substantial difference in temperature change after initial crono. Cooling the 12g will just net you less shots to a 12g. I rarely have to even adjust the TPC threwout the day. I just keep them stored with my gear, throw them in the car. At the field I store them in a paint box in the shade with my paint.

Are you running an open face TPC? When is the last time you cleaned the internals. (Including the valve) Could be the paint you're using as well why you're seeing fluctuations in velocity.

I would try fresh springs you can get them cheap from CCI. Buying used you dont really know what someone has done.
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