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Old 11-24-2016, 01:58 PM #1
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How can I make my CCI Phantom quieter?

I already have a Deadly Winds Fibur X 14 inch on it (yet to test it) and I was trying to think up any other ways to make it more quiet. I was thinking if I improved the efficiency and lower the FPS a bit it would help quiet it down because less air less noise right? I haven't seen very many bolt options to quiet it down, any ideas for that? I have also heard of different spring combinations helping to make it more efficient and or quieter? Currently I have the lightest main spring on (Blue >15) and have no clue what my valve spring is.. Any ideas or discussions on making it quieter are greatly appreciated.
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Old 11-24-2016, 02:13 PM #2
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Nelson's are loud(er) because they are efficient.
Try other spring combinations and see what happens?
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Old 11-24-2016, 02:52 PM #3
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try selling it to make it quieter. Something like a cocker can be quieter more easily.
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Old 11-24-2016, 03:03 PM #4
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try selling it to make it quieter. Something like a cocker can be quieter more easily.
Lol already own a cocker and it's the one getting sold. Its more quiet for sure.
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Old 11-24-2016, 03:05 PM #5
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Nelson's are loud(er) because they are efficient.
Try other spring combinations and see what happens?
I just put a soft mainspring on it yet to test it. How can I change the valve spring? And will that effect it at all?
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Old 11-24-2016, 04:18 PM #6
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I just put a soft mainspring on it yet to test it. How can I change the valve spring? And will that effect it at all?
https://phantomonline.com/wp-content...tom-Manual.pdf

this should help.
the lower the operating pressure the less efficient it will be.
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Old 11-24-2016, 07:06 PM #7
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Are you using co2 or hpa? co2 is supposed to be a bit quieter.
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Old 11-24-2016, 09:35 PM #8
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with this> http://www.paintballgateway.com/dyecciphul14.html

stock silver springs, 280FPS, tight bore and this ^^^

Im gettting better then 40 shots to a 12g @ 70* shooting 280FPS with a VSC setup.
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Old 11-24-2016, 10:10 PM #9
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Why does CO2 make it quieter? What about a tight bore makes it quieter? I only have HPA available and I don't feel like setting it up for 12 grams lol. My field limit is 250 I have yet to get my FPS that low and I have installed the lightest main spring (haven't tested it yet) and I'm hoping to get it below 250
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Old 11-25-2016, 12:21 PM #10
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If you're not running 12g why do you care about efficiency?
What size HPA tank you running?

Tighter bore lets less air past the ball = better efficiency = lower operating pressure = + better barrel porting = quieter shot. In order to run a tighter bore you need consistenly sized paint. This is how good paint makes a diffrence.

Never ran my phantom that low all the field I play at are 280-300fps. I find the phantom shoots best at 280fps I leave it at that. You're going to have to use the lighter springs to achieve 250fps. I wouldn't try to shoot below 250fps I would try to get as close to that number as I could without going over fields required speed. The lower FPS will give you alot more bounces.

I use mine with both HPA and a 12g ICD lever changer with silver springs I can switch between my HPA tank set to 800PSI and back to 12g with very little adjustment over the crono. With the Dye barrel bored for freak inserts the extra porting and ability to bore match perfectly make it just as quiet as my cockers.
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Old 11-27-2016, 01:22 PM #11
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If you're not running 12g why do you care about efficiency?
What size HPA tank you running?

Tighter bore lets less air past the ball = better efficiency = lower operating pressure = + better barrel porting = quieter shot. In order to run a tighter bore you need consistenly sized paint. This is how good paint makes a diffrence.

Never ran my phantom that low all the field I play at are 280-300fps. I find the phantom shoots best at 280fps I leave it at that. You're going to have to use the lighter springs to achieve 250fps. I wouldn't try to shoot below 250fps I would try to get as close to that number as I could without going over fields required speed. The lower FPS will give you alot more bounces.

I use mine with both HPA and a 12g ICD lever changer with silver springs I can switch between my HPA tank set to 800PSI and back to 12g with very little adjustment over the crono. With the Dye barrel bored for freak inserts the extra porting and ability to bore match perfectly make it just as quiet as my cockers.
Only reason I cared about efficiency is because the less air used with each shot the quieter the shot right? Shooting below 250 is no problem at my field with the ranges. And a 13 ci any bigger is too heavy and bulky. My buddy runs a CF tank not sure what size but he has a 10 tube so his face isn't getting poked lol. I'm not ready to let go of my beloved 15 round tube. So efficiency does play a part in the noise of the shot?
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Old 11-28-2016, 05:55 PM #12
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Well, I'm getting well over 150 shots (15 tubes) shooting 280FPS on a 13ci. This is what carry most of the time. Joyride 15 tubes or Dual Gauntlets 10 tubes. I just picked up a 10ci and 9 ci HPA tank I'm experimenting with. I run an L stock so length of the feed tube to tank is irrelevant for me. You can always use a reg extender if you want more length and are running your HPA tank back Bottle or with a bottom line kit.

You should be able to stretch that out a bit more shooting only 250fps. Should be quieter at that speed in theory as well.

If you want to make it quite as posable you will need, a tight bore, good paint, and good barrel porting. After you spring your phantom to shoot the FPS you want.
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