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Old 03-16-2005, 03:50 PM #43
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As far as drops are concerned, it's preference. PB puts out a good drop though.
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Old 03-16-2005, 09:13 PM #44
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its an ok drop. good quality, and nice drop forward in the distance aspect to help center your guns gravity. the blue is little darker than that of the wrath so it wont look liek it perfectly fits or matches. try it out and take some pics for everyones reference.
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Old 03-16-2005, 09:53 PM #45
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UPDATE: Autococker Vertical ASA fits!

^Thread updated^
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Old 03-16-2005, 10:22 PM #46
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really?! so this would also allow for autococker lpr to fit as well. so palmers micro rock here we come?
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Old 03-16-2005, 10:24 PM #47
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No, no. The Wrath and Autococker VASA is totally separate from the LPR assembly. All the VASA does is connect the HP Reg to the body, nothing more. Sorry KHB...
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Old 03-16-2005, 10:25 PM #48
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Spartacus---damn, you beat me to it! I suspected it from the time that the dissambled pic was posted, but I wanted to verify it before anyone else. Oh, well. Thanks for the confirmation though, that makes me one happy camper. Now I can put my Detonator on there and still have a gauge! Now the only question is straight or 15* ?

BTW---did you use an ASA for a mech or electro cocker? They're a little different, but I don't think it will really matter.
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Old 03-16-2005, 10:29 PM #49
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damn. so it wont accept other lpr's? if so that sucks. unless the stock is worth my while. speaking of upgrades for the wrath, does anyone know of an asa that the macro line can go straight into? not liek at the side liek alot of on/offs or asa's. i want a macdev gladiator and then a good on/off so the macro line wont be in anythings way. also what are the eye covers made of? aluminum? or plastic? i'm thinking it'd be cool if someone painted the eye covers to liek red or sumthing. spartacus your setup would look really cool with some annod/painted eye covers...
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Old 03-16-2005, 10:32 PM #50
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You can go straight into the Dye Airport, or the Empire on/off (they call it the quick on/off or something like that)
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Old 03-16-2005, 10:49 PM #51
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I'm pretty sure the one I used was for a mech cocker as it had the cut out for the rod (not a hole, a SLOT in the side of the ASA). I've looked all over for a 15* with a gauge port, but to no avail. The straight one's have them, but none of the 15* ones that I could find. But I went with the 15* just to be different.
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Old 03-16-2005, 11:31 PM #52
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Spartacus, I'm in the same boat you're in. Fortunately it shouldn't be too expensive to have a machinst take a normal 15* cocker ASA, drill and tap a guage port, and put another hose tunnel/slot on the right side.

In the meantime, I've done this: http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.p...hreadid=894727
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Old 03-16-2005, 11:36 PM #53
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Hey guys, ask and ye shall recieve!!!
Now, which one looks like the best fit?

https://secure5.nexternal.com/shared...unt2=987907052

Change the search window at the top to cocker acces. and they have them all!
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Old 03-16-2005, 11:38 PM #54
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I'm a step ahead of you Inflicted. Didn't you see? I already put your mod on my list. Lol, oh ye of little faith...

And I ran the hose to the LPR through the slot on the cocker ASA. Yeah, it's on the wrong side, but with the help of a dremmel tool, I rounded the endge of the trigger frame slot for the hose so it doesn't pinch running to the other side. Works perfectly and you don't have an extra hole or slot in your ASA this way. I put a pic in S!ress' pic thread if you're curious. When my gat is finished, I'll post more.

jjdustr- NICE FIND. Too bad I've already got one! They look a lot different than the ones I've seen...
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Old 03-16-2005, 11:40 PM #55
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Spartacus...you think you can put that link into the opening post of this thread for the ASA?
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Old 03-16-2005, 11:43 PM #56
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Done my friend.
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Old 03-17-2005, 09:46 AM #57
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Hey, just wondering how familiar everyone was with the bore sizes if the stock barrel on the wrath. And if anyone knows which size (or where to find) the size of Menace paintballs. Also that cocker sizer at https://secure5.nexternal.com/share...ount2=987907052
which one would be a good starter?(compared to stock bore)
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Old 03-17-2005, 10:38 AM #58
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Not positive on this, but I've heard the stock barrel is .693. If you plan on getting a kit but only a few backs/inserts for now, .689 is a good place to start. If you use pro balls most of the time, then get smaller bore barrels. If you use rec balls most of the time, large bore is your baby. The stock barrel actually isn't too shabby.
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Old 03-17-2005, 05:59 PM #59
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i forgot where i read this but somewhere i read that the wrath isnt spring return it just has the spring so it doesnt jam or something like that i think it was on pbreview
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Old 03-17-2005, 06:01 PM #60
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i forgot where i read this but somewhere i read that the wrath isnt spring return it just has the spring so it doesnt jam or something like that i think it was on pbreview wait found it Many Ion owners use the fact that the wraths ram is spring returned to dissuade people from getting it. But the truth is that the spring keeps the ram from getting air slammed into the cap which would damage the ram over time.
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Some new info for you guys, I work for FBM, and we are planning on making some parts for the gun. I'l be helping to design a trigger for it as soon as I recieve my gun from national. I can promise a 3 point adjustment and its gonna be made from delrin. We might be making a bolt also but a trigger is coming soon, the price should be at $22.99 like the rest of our triggers.

Check our website in the couple of weeks for the trigger...www.fbmfactory.com

Or suggest that your local dealer start carrying our line of products.

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Old 03-17-2005, 06:23 PM #62
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p8nt_freak1852: get both guns, I am, have you shot an ion, they are sweet and turn on ramping mode and ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh...

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Old 03-17-2005, 11:04 PM #63
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OK, where did this Ion stuff come from, I thought I was bad at getting off subject. But yeah, if I had the money, I'd buy an Ion, just to compare it to my wrath and for a spare gun (perhaps main gun if I really liked it)
So yeah, I'll stay off subject w/ ya, but lets stop it here, this is a WRATH UPGRADES AND MODS thread, not I want to be like everyone else in this world and buy a Ion thread!!!
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