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Old 07-14-2005, 07:23 PM #211
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I wish the Dreadnaught prototype was on my wall. That was taken by Chris and hidden from me You have no idea how bad I wanted that marker.

I have the v1 of the shrunken 80. I have a post somewhere about what the body looks like. A Mayhem with a forgrip on the frame, no va, double trigger, clamping no-rise. Anyway, I will try to put a pic up asap, but that website is on the fritz, not allowing me to change info on it in some places. As to info about the Dreadnaught, I can tell you what I know, although that is not much since I wasn't "in" on the project. And as you know it was never run, there are only drawings and one prototype made of the naught, nothing ever really looked into further about it. The Dreadnaught...is naught... sorry, had to say it
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Old 07-15-2005, 12:37 AM #212
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*Fingers crossed* Hope a new paintball company springs up.
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Old 07-15-2005, 08:50 PM #213
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That's going to do what? Pick up the projects W/M left off? Not a chance. There's no market for underdeveloped spool valve guns which have spawned Trix's and Shockers.
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Underdeveloped spool valve guns?
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Old 07-16-2005, 02:38 AM #215
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Well...offer somebody (not you or me) an Assault 80, or a DM3/4/5/C/shocker. What are they going to choose? The finished product. Yes the 80 may be very air efficient over some of these markers, stock or upgraded and tweaked, but the 80 is pretty much the first stage of all these guns. The DM's and shockers have the 80's operation, but have been whittled down to minimize weight and maximize the flashiness. And it works. People don't want to wait for the 80 to reach that point (though some did).

Also, saying underdeveloped is my own flaw. It may not be true but in my eyes, the 80 was a pool of potential easily tapped. Between Alex, Kirk, and myself, we had so many ideas that we did to our own 80's but ones that Chris would not adopt to his set production. We (I) had the ideas for a rotating eye-acceptable breech, the new trigger frame, cocker detents, and a new board. They weren't incorperated until a year and a half later, so I see the gun as very slow in its development.
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Old 07-29-2005, 01:18 PM #216
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is ur store and field still open?
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Old 07-30-2005, 02:07 AM #217
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Yes, Vandenburg Music Store is still open. Basically what he's done to the paintball area is degraded it to a CO2 fill station and some basic parts. He is still trying to get rid of the remaining stock and guns most likely for cheap so he can clear that corner of the store out.

About the field - I'm not sure if it's still open or not. I haven't been asked to work in a few weeks, and Opie said that he may have sold the field already, but I'm completely unclear. I'll be out there at the field tomorrow around 9:30 in the morning just to check and see if anybody comes out.
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By any chance, by the way you described it... Did the Dreadnaught look like the "Quest" which is coming out in a few weeks?
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Old 10-04-2005, 05:20 PM #219
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Show me a picture and I'll compare the two. Also, I've got very limited access to internet right now since I'm moving in the next week and my router's been packed...I'm stealing from Chabacca
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Hey Matt, this is Ryan, Sam's son. I know I'm about 8 months too late to be asking about this topic, but what exactly were you and the group planning on doing? I like the new 06 Cyborg, if it isn't too late to put my opionion in. The fact that it is so air efficient, very light, not too pricey, and just the overall new look of it. Let me know of what plans are to be taking place.
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Old 10-04-2005, 07:17 PM #221
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Oops, lol, sorry, I guess I should've read all the threads b4 I decided to write asking all those questions. I still think you guys have it in you to make guns, even though other brands are jerks about stealing their ideas and stuff (or w/e the problem was). Ok, thanks anyways.
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Old 10-04-2005, 09:59 PM #222
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Hey Ryan. Yea...reading all those posts helps clear things up doesn't it
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Old 10-12-2005, 01:14 AM #224
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I like, but actually...uhh..smaller. Eyes are more cosmetically fashionable, but still external. Don't get me started on breech and grip frame
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Its a shame this had to happen. Had my mind set on this. Guess ill get the Promaster upgrade to my bko.
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Old 11-06-2005, 03:07 PM #226
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Old 11-06-2005, 08:13 PM #227
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That picture...I'm pretty sure it is of the Quest, which I have no clue who makes, but it isn't WarMachine. WarMachine is closed now (temporarily in my eyes), so this whole thread is pretty much a dream thread.
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That is made by FEP... called the Quest... the one pictured is just a prototype, the finished product can be viewed elsewhere on these forums... cappped at 23 bps cuz of noid, robust, one moving part, 2.88 pounds with barrel and drop, will come stock with a powerlyte scepter barrel... nething else? lol
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