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11-25-2004, 09:20 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Des Moines Washington
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BKO Info
Hi I am thinking about getting a BKO and I was wondering if someone could tell me the pros and cons of this gun. Also will my egg keep up with it, or should i get a reloader b.
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11-25-2004, 09:22 PM
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#2
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Join Date: May 2004
Location: North East PA
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get a halo b the egg wont keep up
pros are that its good
cons are none really atleast for the price
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11-25-2004, 11:52 PM
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#3
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: louisville kentucky
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the bko is capable of 18 bps
the egg is capable of 17
the halo b is capable of 22
* you could also get the q loader! over 50 bps feed rate and no blimp on top your gun! *
if you get the egg you will want to do the detent mod and get a new bolt; i.e the shocktek supa fly or else you will chop from the ungodly blowback and double feeding and then probably blame it on your egg. even though you prolly wont shoot at 17 a second anyway (if you can than teach me how to move my fingers that fast!)
if you get the halo b im pretty sure all you have to worry about is the detent mod as i've heard that blowback will not be a problem with the halo b.
cost if you get an egg: as low as 60 for the egg...30 for the bolt...and however much a sliver of macroline will cost you (prolly nuthin if you have extra laying around) which equals about 90 bux
cost of halo b: as low as 104
pros of bko: cheap price..looks good...shoots fast
cons of bko: stock bolt has bad blowback...uses an oring as a ball detent...owners manual is outdated and very lacking...some say the regs are garbage but i haven't had mine long enough to tell yet
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11-26-2004, 01:25 AM
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#4
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Des Moines Washington
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Thanx
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11-26-2004, 02:52 AM
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#5
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rawr.
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: So Cal
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get a blind bolt, stops blowback (i got one in stock)
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11-26-2004, 08:57 AM
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The gun is just awesome.
As long as you get a halo and do the macro mod youll be fine, you dont need a new bolt.
As for the reg its fine for me. but everyone always upgrades there reg on any gun so its your opinion.
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11-26-2004, 09:56 AM
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#7
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Join Date: May 2004
Location: North East PA
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Quote:
Originally posted by theflynnrod
the bko is capable of 18 bps
the egg is capable of 17
the halo b is capable of 22
* you could also get the q loader! over 50 bps feed rate and no blimp on top your gun! *
if you get the egg you will want to do the detent mod and get a new bolt; i.e the shocktek supa fly or else you will chop from the ungodly blowback and double feeding and then probably blame it on your egg. even though you prolly wont shoot at 17 a second anyway (if you can than teach me how to move my fingers that fast!)
if you get the halo b im pretty sure all you have to worry about is the detent mod as i've heard that blowback will not be a problem with the halo b.
cost if you get an egg: as low as 60 for the egg...30 for the bolt...and however much a sliver of macroline will cost you (prolly nuthin if you have extra laying around) which equals about 90 bux
cost of halo b: as low as 104
pros of bko: cheap price..looks good...shoots fast
cons of bko: stock bolt has bad blowback...uses an oring as a ball detent...owners manual is outdated and very lacking...some say the regs are garbage but i haven't had mine long enough to tell yet
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The advertised feed rate for hoppers is drop rate, not the feed rate of it into a gun. It does not take into consideration the time it takes for the bolt to move back and forth. Eggs will barely get 12 bps.
Why would you buy a supa fly bolt for reducing blowback? All it would do is increse it because the od is smaller than the stock bolt.
just go with a halo b much less choping probs
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11-26-2004, 12:16 PM
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#8
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: louisville kentucky
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well i had the stock bolt in the bko......major blowback...replaced it with the supafly bolt...no blowback...the thing is advertised to reduce blowback
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11-26-2004, 12:19 PM
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Join Date: May 2004
Location: North East PA
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thats odd
does it have o rings or something?
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11-26-2004, 12:31 PM
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#10
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: louisville kentucky
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no its made of delrin but its shorter and supposed to be thicker...it also reduces kick and you will have to turn your pressure down slightly because its lighter
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11-26-2004, 12:33 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: louisville kentucky
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is there anywhere that shows the egg can only feed 12 when on a gun because im about to buy one and i wanna make sure it does more than 12 before i get it or else im getting the q loader
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11-26-2004, 12:39 PM
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#12
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Join Date: May 2004
Location: North East PA
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Well my supa fly is smaller in diameter. And you have to turn the presure down because it is heivier not lighter
take a look at www.warpig.com in the tech section for the hopper speed tests
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11-26-2004, 12:46 PM
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#13
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: louisville kentucky
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ok if the bolt length is reduced by alot wouldnt that make it lighter...i dont know how much each actually weighs so i may be wrong. but when reducing the weight it takes less pressure. if i put a bolt in it thats 5 pounds im not going to decrease the pressure..i would have to turn is way up to even get it to move it
and thanks for the link
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11-26-2004, 12:56 PM
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#14
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Join Date: May 2004
Location: North East PA
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with the supa fly the bolt length is reduced, but they have an alluminum core thing that holde the spring and ball bearing. I did measure their weights a month or 2 ago and the supa fly weighed about .3 or .4 onces hevier
you do increse presure if you reduce the weight
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11-26-2004, 12:59 PM
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#15
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: louisville kentucky
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then why when it was installed the pressure had to be turned down because it was shooting hot
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11-26-2004, 01:00 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: louisville kentucky
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and to me the shocktech seems heaveir on the end where as the stock bolt seemed to have the weigh more evenly distributed
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11-26-2004, 01:13 PM
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Join Date: May 2004
Location: North East PA
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increase presure if you lose weight
and decrease presure if you add weight
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11-26-2004, 01:19 PM
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#18
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i need a new avatar
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Dover Ohio
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yes because of the momentum of lighter bolt/ram is less than that of a normal one therefor doesnt strike the valve pin as hard= more psi needed, but lighter one should in theroy have less kick
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11-26-2004, 01:43 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: louisville kentucky
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so why does everyone have to decrease the pressure to get there fps down...i dont want it to seem like i think i know everythign or start a fight im just asking
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11-27-2004, 09:34 PM
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i need a new avatar
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Dover Ohio
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if your bolt is heavier then you'd lower your pressure, it can get complicated, dont have time to type it all out but in general higher pressure = higher fps, lower psi= lower fps.
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11-27-2004, 09:40 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: louisville kentucky
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that makes no damn sense.....have you ever taken physics. Go buy a stock bko, buy a superfly bolt, and see whether or not you have to increase or decrease your pressure......
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