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Old 11-09-2004, 02:21 AM #1
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818 Paintball and Angel bolt kit

Hey everybody! I'd like to announce that 818 paintball is not only a fully certified WDP, WGP and Smart Parts service shop, BUT its also a design facility.

We are working on several parts to be made before the year is out. One of them is a very unique re-design of the Angel bolt assembly.

One thing an Angel does that almost no other marker does is, have a breech door that opens. This breech door allows easy access to the bolt. It also causes problems; The bolt sits 4mm behind the edge of the feed neck. This allows balls to roll back and forward between the ball detents and the bolt. It also allows another ball to "sneak" into the feed-neck and double feed.

NOT ANYMORE!

Our anti-chop bolt, removes that gap! Imagine the stock bolt with a spring in the back. This spring does the same thing as the JAM bolt, BUT unlike the JAM bolt our's is smaller, riding on o-rings instead of delron on metal. This will eliminate the scratching that occurs in all angels. It will also make the bolt's motions smoother.

These changes in the design PLUS the anti-chop spring loaded assembly, make this bolt an amazing and simple upgrade for ALL Angels.

We are in the process of designing it right now and will have a prototype early in the 2005 season, before Huntington Beach tournament. I'll also have pictures and a DEMO video online VERY soon!

Check our prototype bolt in San Diego NPPL tournament. Look for the RED 05 SPEED!!!
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Old 11-09-2004, 03:53 AM #2
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that guy on the video is a idiot. you prablly had the eyes set on simulate on teh timmy and that is why you chopped so much.

the guy in the video really is stupid he cant put a sentance together. you did not show us the bolt so how are we to beleive that there is anything diffrent with the bolt inside that angle

and the guy did not even talk about your new bolt at all so come on man if you are going to promote something at least do it right
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owned!!!! lol, ye and that guys an idiot and shoots slow as ****....what a noob out paintballing in a collared shirt and ****, choad status
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Old 11-09-2004, 10:11 AM #4
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hhhahaha u *****es like that shirt lol and no my gun was not in sim and i was shooting 14 on the alias becuz i shoot leagaly and i dont cheat. Its just that the angel is a better over all gun and shoots a lot better then any timmy ive ever shoten.

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Forgive the proving grounds family because we're not a bunch of goddamn cheaters.

Tye, was that you're 05, have you fixed the eyes?
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patotb1- lol i dont cheat my ***, im sure u didnt have bounce or anything on that speed, im sure that was all u considering how slow u were on the alias, and i can shoot 19 without any bounce or special chip
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that guy on the video is a idiot. you prablly had the eyes set on simulate on teh timmy and that is why you chopped so much.
The timmy was on 12bps dry fire mode because the eyes were clogged. PLUS, it had a halo on it, markers should never chop with a halo even w/o the eyes. The point of the video was to show how screwed up the timmy was vs our angel using the same paint. And in my opinion, it worked fine. I will have a NEW video AFTER NPPL!
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patotb1- lol i dont cheat my ***, im sure u didnt have bounce or anything on that speed, im sure that was all u considering how slow u were on the alias, and i can shoot 19 without any bounce or special chip
The test was REAL. The alias would not shoot faster then its simulate mode because of the paint clogging it up. The angel was set on the lowest ramp setting and was completely legal. We tested the marker for bounce and it was 100% legal.

- no bounce
- very little ramp
- no chopping
- perfect little angel...
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ok but here is what i am getting at

the guy in the test did not even talk about the bolt or show us at all. so how are we to know that this gun is anything but stock

if i wanted to watch a stock angel video i would download it from wdp
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Old 11-09-2004, 06:26 PM #10
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The bolt on angels goes in and out of the breech without any space to spare, how do you plan to make a bolt that is somewhat longer to rid of the extra room between the bolt and the detents, while still having it able to fit in and out of the breech?
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this is stupid, WDP has that kid by the balls, and the alias is not a POS, maybe his is because he doesn't know what the hell he's doing, he says dirt was all over the speed because he was "Diving into the dorito all day." He could have just picked some dirt off of the ground and rubbed it on the gun. This is dumb, I had a ****ty old IR3 with an a4 soft face bolt and no chopping problems and hardly any barrel breaks, I don't know what makes you think angels have such a chopping problem or timmys for that matter, because if they did I highly doubt anyone would want to bother even buying one.
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this is stupid, WDP has that kid by the balls, and the alias is not a POS.
I'm not a stupid kid, just somebody who is dumb enough to post intresting new ideas online. If you guys don't like them, then I'll have a nice perfectly shooting speed for myself.

Anyhow I can't show the bolt because its a bolt somebody else made and we re-designed and if I give you a picture of it, you'll go make one yourself. I will show it to people at the NPPL event this weekend.

We use springs and it fits nicely

BTW, timmys suck!!! Guess what markers were DOWN the entire weekend on BOB's HOME TURF! It was not the DM4's OR the cockers... I have plenty of video to proove that one!
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i did not say you are stupid, i said this whole topic is stupid because A4 soft face bolts work perfectly fine.
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but not as good as this one
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uhhhhhhhh. wtf are bolts .
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i gotta angel...can i get a proto type??????
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i did not say you are stupid, i said this whole topic is stupid because A4 soft face bolts work perfectly fine.
If you've never broken a ball in the barrel or breech, then you don't need it and won't buy one. But 90% of the other Angel owners have a problem and could use this product.

BTW: Timmys still suck
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i gotta angel...can i get a proto type??????
I will have an initial release AFTER we finish our Halo paddle, sometime in early 2005. I will re-post then!
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every gun will always have problems just because of it's user. That video was totally biased. WHEN YOU ****ING TEST SOMETHING CLEAN IT UP! don't test dirty crap you nub, you make timmies look like crap when in fact they are one of the fastest most reliable guns on the market. Angels and Timmies are both low matinence guns and don't require a lot of cleaing or care. You can't test a gun with eyes and one without eyes because thats called a handicap.
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I own an angel, love it, yet still dissagree that Timmy's suck. Timmys are just as fast/reliable as angles, and the both perform at near the same level, just the operation is a little different and the body style is different. Saying that timmy's suck is just like saying that 'cockers suck. Just because YOU had a problem with yours doesn't mean they are bad markers. But hey, if you hate it so much, sell it to me for cheep seeing that it sux so much, I'd be glad to take that "POS" off your hands.
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Really, I'll take both of those POS
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