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Old 08-19-2004, 01:04 AM #43
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dude.... RedKiller definately won that argument.... i read it w/out looking at ur name, and i thot he was the one who posted. The majority of F 9/11 is false, u, my liberal pansey friend, got pwned
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Old 08-19-2004, 01:05 AM #44
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You know there are some threads that were better kept off topic.............
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dude.... RedKiller definately won that argument.... i read it w/out looking at ur name, and i thot he was the one who posted. The majority of F 9/11 is false, u, my liberal pansey friend, got pwned
There isn't a false fact in that movie. Only Moore's opinion can be wrong.
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you know the problem was I never posted in this thread...
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dude, r u kidding, michael moore edits speeches so that they benefit him, even if they are on completely different topics.

Besides, how can u trust anything a man says who even lies about his own birthplace, let me give u a hint... ITS NOT FLINT!!!
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dude, r u kidding, michael moore edits speeches so that they benefit him, even if they are on completely different topics.

Besides, how can u trust anything a man says who even lies about his own birthplace, let me give u a hint... ITS NOT FLINT!!!
Because a conservative has never lied or taken things out of context... good point... very valid...

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i never said conservatives never lied
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Ok so you don't like Moore because he lied about where he was born (which I'd like to see a source on cause that's the first I've heard on it)... And because he edits speeches for his own good...

So based on those two actions (lieing and taking things out of context) you must REALLY hate Bush and Cheney...
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There isn't a false fact in that movie. Only Moore's opinion can be wrong.
There are many false facts...

He said the chairman of vote-counting was going to knock people out of the rolls who would have voted for Bush (and that you can tell by the color of their skin).(
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Moore also created a fake news article titled "Latest Florida recount says Gore won" and quickly flashed it on the screen.

He says the Supreme Court helped Bush get in office. False(Source)

Moore says that the African Americans in Congress were told to sit down and shut up at a hearing. There was neither a racial distinction nor did anybody ever utter "sit down" or "shut up". How about Patsy Mink from Hawaii? Hardly black.

Moore says Bush did not do the traditional walk to the White House because of rioters. Actually, he DID walk the last block to the White House.

Moore says that no President had ever witnessed such a thing [riot] on his inauguration day. Actually, Nixon had 60,000 protestors... 3 times as many Bush had.Source

Moore says his approval ratings began to sink and showed a chart that shows that on September 5, Bush had a 45% approval rating. Before September 11, Bush had never gone below 50% approval rating. New Source


I'll remind you that this ONLY covers the first 8 minutes of the movie (which I have downloaded, of course)
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Old 08-19-2004, 01:49 PM #52
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He said the chairman of vote-counting was going to knock people out of the rolls who would have voted for Bush (and that you can tell by the color of their skin).(
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Common dreams is not a good reputable news site to begin with, not to mention that's only his opinion after looking at the facts.

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Moore also created a fake news article titled "Latest Florida recount says Gore won" and quickly flashed it on the screen.

Source.

He says the Supreme Court helped Bush get in office. False(Source)
Again, his opinion.

Moore says that the African Americans in Congress were told to sit down and shut up at a hearing. There was neither a racial distinction nor did anybody ever utter "sit down" or "shut up". How about Patsy Mink from Hawaii? Hardly black.
I don't remeber him ever saying that, all I remember was seeing all the blacks go up to the stand and get told to sit down by Al Gore because none of the objections were signed by a single senator. Couldn've easily been him just saying they were essentially told to sit down and shut up, but again, I don't remeber him saying anything like that.

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Moore says Bush did not do the traditional walk to the White House because of rioters. Actually, he DID walk the last block to the White House.
Source. I looked myself for a little bit and can't find how long the traditional walk is supposed to be. I did see that he walked the last block, but I'm wondering if the wlak is supposed to be longer.

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Moore says that no President had ever witnessed such a thing [riot] on his inauguration day. Actually, Nixon had 60,000 protestors... 3 times as many Bush had.Source
I'll give you that one. Although the wording in that article is shady. They ANTICIPATED 20,000. But I really don't care enough to look for another.

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Moore says his approval ratings began to sink and showed a chart that shows that on September 5, Bush had a 45% approval rating. Before September 11, Bush had never gone below 50% approval rating. (Source)
Your source is a 404 so I looked for myself and couldn't find anything supporting that.
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Source. I looked myself for a little bit and can't find how long the traditional walk is supposed to be. I did see that he walked the last block, but I'm wondering if the wlak is supposed to be longer.

Your source is a 404 so I looked for myself and couldn't find anything supporting that.
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One after another, they were told to 'sit down' and 'shut up'
Whether he meant 'essentially' or not, it is false.

It was raining the day of his inauguration. I, too, am not sure how long Presidents typically walk for. But, needless to say, he did walk. If he did not walk for as long as is typical, it was probably because of the rain.

Edit:New Source

The old source must have been taken down. Bastards.
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Whether he meant 'essentially' or not, it is false.
They were told to sit down by AL Gore, and he may have meant essentially. So it all depends on what he meant. Anyway, that's just a nitpick. It doesn't have anything to do with his major charges against James Bath, the Bushes, and the Saudis.
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You've seen this before, but you'll see it again.

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Hell, just read the whole thing:

http://www.davekopel.com/Terror/Fift...enheit-911.htm
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notice, the "pwn king" hasnt posted back.

what a dumb ****...
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what a dumb ****...
I'd rather see an intelligent post than a mudsling.
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You've seen this before, but you'll see it again.

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Hell, just read the whole thing:

http://www.davekopel.com/Terror/Fift...enheit-911.htm
Yup, I've seen those 52 times to be exact.
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Yup, I've seen those 52 times to be exact.
once...for...every...week... of the year?
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Indeed.
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hmm... 52... where have I seen someone use that answer before....
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Old 08-20-2004, 11:04 AM #63
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No Slinger stole the answer I gave him for another question... You'd have to visit one of the Slinger/Lothrop threads that we hijacked...
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