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Old 08-09-2004, 12:16 AM #22
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Moore Is Simply Another Selective (constitutionally,) Liberal. Much Like L. Flynt. There Are (wrongly,) Many Private/ Public/ Family Connections In The Current Admin. To The Degree Of Massive Anti-trust. WHO WOULD PROSECUTE ? There's A Reason Mag.'s Such As ' Media Bypass', And ' Free American' Are Rarely Seen On The Shelves Of Newsstands....
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Old 08-09-2004, 12:27 AM #23
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Old 08-09-2004, 02:28 AM #24
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Not like in 7 minutes he could turn into the incredible Hulk and stop further attacks
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Old 08-09-2004, 08:46 AM #25
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Old 08-09-2004, 09:10 AM #26
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I'm glad Moore has done what he's done.
The right side media tells us lies and feed us propaganda everyday... while Moore gets made out to be a mad man when he spreads some propaganda for the other side... i see nothing wrong with this at all.
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Old 08-09-2004, 11:56 AM #27
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I'm glad Moore has done what he's done.
The right side media tells us lies and feed us propaganda everyday... while Moore gets made out to be a mad man when he spreads some propaganda for the other side... i see nothing wrong with this at all.

Yes, Fox News lies all the time and has so much propaganda, they take people out of context and don't even try to find out the whole story.

Sorry, but there is a big difference in Moore and Fox News( pretty much the only somewhat conservative news channel at that).
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Old 08-09-2004, 01:43 PM #28
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I did see the movie and most of Moore's interviews before and after. Well he is very clever in how he put the movie together, factually the events are true but he purposely leaves tons of stuff out to make Bush look as bad as possible. Most of the points he makes (relationships with the Saudi's and OBL's family in particular) were coincidental and exaggerated. When you watch the film you have to look at everything closely and research it for your self on what happened and why. Don't make up your mind because of just what Moore is telling you because the movie is his vision and he is expressing his opinion.

Everyone keeps mentioning about the 7 min with Bush in that school and this is totally unfair. His aid did not tell him the country was under attack. All that was known at that time was that a plane flew into one of the towers and it was thought to be an accident. I remember that day vividly and when I first heard what happened on the radio my thought was that it was horrible plane accident. But when the 2nd plane hit everyone knew it was no accident and all hell broke loose.

and before you start ripping into me I'm no Bush lover either.
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Re: Re: Re: farenheit 9/11 showed me the light

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Say anything good about Bush and post will go as follows:

Liberal: Bush is stupid, post 1000 websites saying what he has done stupid.

Liberal: Quote and thumbs up

Liberal: Bush lies

Liberal: More personal attacks on Bush saying he is "stupid" and "lies" and "dodged the draft" thrown in.

Liberal: Iraq is all about oil.

Liberal: I can run the country better than he can.

And so on. It's so predictable.

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Old 08-09-2004, 04:32 PM #31
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espo knows what he's talking about. the media spoon feeds us propaganda daily and in every possible form. moore tries to balance this by throwing his own propaganda into the mix. i don't believe EVERY LAST WORD that comes out of moore's mouth. I try to weed out the lies and exagerations after i soak up all he babbles on about
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Old 08-09-2004, 04:35 PM #32
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galli, i think you're the dumbest person alive. he waited in the classroom for 7 minutes, then after he left the classroom, he stayed in the school for ANOTHER 20 MINUTES. By that time, the nation had allready begun to react. Why's that, you ask? we didn't need him
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Old 08-09-2004, 04:37 PM #33
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Sure doens't seem like you look at him like that.
No one will deny that the media doesn't deliver straight facts. The facts are still presented in the popular media though. I can't recall a time when the media with held facts in order to help their agenda. Ya know why? Because some other media source with a different agenda would provide the rest of the facts, disproving the previous media outlet, making them look like fools.

I highly doubt Bush just stood around the school starring at the finger paintings the first graders did. I'm willing to bet that he was tlaking to the teachers, administratiors, and so on. What could he have done anyhow? Formulate a way to address the nation? Can this NOT be done on school grounds?

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Old 08-09-2004, 04:42 PM #34
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look, when a nation's under attack, a president is a great target, yes? so if a president, say stood around a school for half an hour, then he's a target, and all of those teachers and students are in danger. If you're smart at all, you'll remove yourself from those children so they don't get hurt. and why would bush talk to the teachers? they didn't know what was happening. Once again, your ignorance is jaw-dropping
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haha, you are a joke dude. The media feeds us propaganda? The media is very liberal, just like Michael Moore. He isn't "balancing" anything. And I'll post this too. But I'm sure you won't read it.
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The name's Rupert Murdoch. Look him up.
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I can't recall a time when the media with held facts in order to help their agenda.
That's because you haven't seen Outfoxed.
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look, when a nation's under attack, a president is a great target, yes? so if a president, say stood around a school for half an hour, then he's a target, and all of those teachers and students are in danger. If you're smart at all, you'll remove yourself from those children so they don't get hurt. and why would bush talk to the teachers? they didn't know what was happening. Once again, your ignorance is jaw-dropping
The president is always a target, so with that train of thought, he shouldn't make public appearances, campaign, see the light of day, etc. Now you're pulling **** out of your *** to try and support your far-fetched ideas. It's good to use logic as well as common sense when you refute someone. I agree, Bush was stupid for not leaving immediately, but not because he could have done much. It was an open invitation for democrats and liberals alike to attack him.
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Old 08-09-2004, 05:06 PM #39
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right, but especially when the nation is under attack, he's a primary target
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Old 08-09-2004, 05:07 PM #40
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look, when a nation's under attack, a president is a great target, yes? so if a president, say stood around a school for half an hour, then he's a target, and all of those teachers and students are in danger. If you're smart at all, you'll remove yourself from those children so they don't get hurt. and why would bush talk to the teachers? they didn't know what was happening. Once again, your ignorance is jaw-dropping
We didn't know what was going on untill hours after it happend. We knew someone flew planes into buildings. Thats about it. Why wouldn't he talk to the teachers? If I worked at some place the President visted I would sure try to talk to him.

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That's because you haven't seen Outfoxed.
You're right, I haven't. What was it about?
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Old 08-09-2004, 05:09 PM #41
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after fahrenheit 9/11 ive lost any respect for any liberal documentary


i think the sudden flood of leftist propaganda just shows that liberals have more time on their hands than anyone else

lies you say? did you know that popularity polls arent taken on weekends because its hard to reach republicans because they usually are out doing something?
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right, but especially when the nation is under attack, he's a primary target
What makes you say that?
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