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Old 08-22-2004, 07:30 PM #127
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Wow Bern, you're right! Canada does have better health care! If you're a dairy cow.....
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Old 08-22-2004, 07:43 PM #128
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I've been doing some reading up on the whole health costs thing for a long time now.

Reasons for high healthcare costs: It takes an average of 800 million (thats not a typo) dollars for a drug company to get anything approved by the FDA making drugs super expensive and ensuring that drugs helping only a small amount of people never get to market cuz they wouldnt sell enough to offset the 800 million.

Trial Lawyers and whatnot do cause a significant amount. Doctors have to think of themselves too and pay outrageous amounts on malpractice insurance even if they are good doctors. However, its not as big as everyone makes it out to be.

Recent advances in imaging technologies (CAT scan, MRI etc.) have increased the cost of having cancer and diseases. While they do help save lives, each scan is very expensive for the insurance companies. My mom has cancer and she gets 1-2 MRIs a month. Back in the day treating cancer and other stuff was less successful but cheaper.

Thats the low down. I think since the FDA and trial lawyers are the only thing that can be controlled we should fix them.

EDIT: I forgot to mention that Canada is far from the medical utopia people make it out to be. There are waiting lists to see specialists that are more than 10 weeks long. Many people have to wait so long for hip replacement surgery that they become too week to even get the surgery.

I only have a source for the Canada stuff, just trust me about everything else i do a lot of reading. http://www.townhall.com/columnists/w...20040721.shtml
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Old 08-22-2004, 08:17 PM #129
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If you have cancer you're better off being in America. If you have strep throat you're better off in Canada. It's a trade off and the reason I would like to see our country adopt both a public and private health care system.
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Old 08-22-2004, 09:43 PM #130
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However, Capitalism is also one of the worst recorded governments socially.
I'd like to see those records, seeing as capitalism is an economic, not governmental, system

Edit: And I'd like to clear the air about something. Communism is an economic system, socialism is more of a social/government system regulating ownership.

PS: I'd love to enter this thread again and churn some stomaches, but I have been busy lately, sorry guys.
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Old 08-22-2004, 09:44 PM #131
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Trial Lawyers and whatnot do cause a significant amount. Doctors have to think of themselves too and pay outrageous amounts on malpractice insurance even if they are good doctors. However, its not as big as everyone makes it out to be.
Except it is a big deal if you are a doctor. This year alone in Northern Va 18 doctors (not alot until you realize they see on average between 6,000 and 10,000 patients) had to retire early and close their practices because the malpractice insurance is so high. That means between 108,000 and 180,000 people had to find new doctors.

For a single practicing doctor it is around $75,000 a year for malpractice insurance. Talk about high overhead. Most single practices only gross around $575,000 a year. That leaves $500,000 to pay employees, bills and then the doctor himself. In real terms thats not alot of money left for the doctor.
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Old 08-22-2004, 09:45 PM #132
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I'd like to see those records, seeing as capitalism is an economic, not governmental, system
True true, my slip up. And Im the one always hastling other people about the same thing haha.
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Old 08-22-2004, 10:08 PM #133
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Wow Bern, you're right! Canada does have better health care! If you're a dairy cow.....
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Do you drink milk?
Nope, it makes me rather unpopular, if you catch my drift... At any rate, your source says there is no evidence of danger to humans from the drug being used in the cows. And please, unless your a Vegan (and if you are I'll laugh at you) don't go on about the poor cows....
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Old 08-23-2004, 12:53 AM #134
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Not a vegan or vegitarian, but i do feel bad for tortured animals.
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