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Old 07-17-2004, 07:17 PM #43
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Should be several at the chrono areas...

And if not.. A Chance for all teams to adjust marker if it fails robot before game.
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Old 07-17-2004, 07:18 PM #44
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Overall, the NPPL robot rules MUST be changed before the next tounry.
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Why? Both guns they have caught so far at this event have been completely outside the rules.

The Angel that chop shop was using was set up illegally.

The rules and judging are working.

It sucks if people get caught because they don't know how to set up their guns, but ignorance is no excuse.
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Angel??

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I just read it was a trix
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Why? Both guns they have caught so far at this event have been completely outside the rules...
I'm not trying to make excuses but I do think they need to make the robots accessible BEFORE games. Our guy, that morning, did not get his gun to bounce. The robot was only able to get 29 out of 30 shots the first time....meaning that it was not able to get any extra shots out either. Then on the second and third tries, it bounced slightly. 4 extra shots on the 2nd string and 5 extra shots on the 3rd string. If the robot were available before the game so that we could have checked our markers, we wouldnt have been dq'd.

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I'm not trying to make excuses but I do think they need to make the robots accessible BEFORE games.

You are right about that one.
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either the nppl comes up with a list of guns ur not alowed to use, or they let u use the robot if they are gonna use it on u. they should check every1s gun and see how many ppls guns bounce. then they will see how much bs this is
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Angel??

http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.p...hreadid=576001

I just read it was a trix
Chop Shop was using A4 Fly's when they were DQ'ed. You're confused.
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Old 07-17-2004, 09:20 PM #52
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665 got DQ'ed cuz one of their guys guns got put into the robot and it pulled 30 times and got 38 balls. the refs are d**ks.
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either the nppl comes up with a list of guns ur not alowed to use, or they let u use the robot if they are gonna use it on u. they should check every1s gun and see how many ppls guns bounce. then they will see how much bs this is
Um....not ALL matrixes bounce, but some do. Not ALL Timmys bounce, but some do. Not ALL Angels bounce, but some do. They cant just throw out a list of guns, cuz its not like every type of a certain gun bounces.
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Yes, I believe people should be disqualified for bouncing/ramping guns. I also think teams should be able to test their guns before the event so they can make changes if neccessary.

By all means, toss teams out for illegal equipment. But if I set up my gun and it doesn't bounce for me, I want to make sure it won't bounce for the robot either. Just make a few more robots and have them available before the events.

And I think the psp is stupid for thinking about getting rid of trigger rules. Absolutely stupid.
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Yes, I believe people should be disqualified for bouncing/ramping guns. I also think teams should be able to test their guns before the event so they can make changes if neccessary.

By all means, toss teams out for illegal equipment. But if I set up my gun and it doesn't bounce for me, I want to make sure it won't bounce for the robot either. Just make a few more robots and have them available before the events.

And I think the psp is stupid for thinking about getting rid of trigger rules. Absolutely stupid.
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665 got DQ'ed cuz one of their guys guns got put into the robot and it pulled 30 times and got 38 balls. the refs are d**ks.
35 balls....rob this sucks man!
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Old 07-17-2004, 10:59 PM #57
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I think that they should take all the guns being used at the tourny and check them all out on the tursday prior to the event. If there is bounce or illegal settings, they should have a couple techs on hand for each brand of marker to get it out of it, so then there would be no need for the robot anymore.

Bu I dont know alot of people with a brand new Alias/Shocker/A4/ or any other high end gun who would hand over their gun to someone they have never met before.
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all i can say is...robots suck...lol...o well....i guess rules r deff. rules
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I think that they should take all the guns being used at the tourny and check them all out on the tursday prior to the event. If there is bounce or illegal settings, they should have a couple techs on hand for each brand of marker to get it out of it, so then there would be no need for the robot anymore.

Bu I dont know alot of people with a brand new Alias/Shocker/A4/ or any other high end gun who would hand over their gun to someone they have never met before.
You can't have techs out there checking everyones gun, thats a waste of time and money. The best solution is have the Robot accesible to everyone before they play. Or at least have a few robots set up the day u walk to fields you can also check the guns.
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its hard to have the bots open to everyone cause it is a very very expensive chrono that is used with the robot to measure the shots fired and to measuer the velocity of each shot. The "robot" is a simple dc motor hooked up to a finger that rotates and hits the trigger. The big thing is the chrono and the computer hookup and knowhow to read the data.

As i said b4 the chronos are very expensive and they need an operator to read the data and run the chrono for each one they would have. So its not as simple as setting out 4 "robots" and letting everyone slap thier gun on there before the event.

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Don't you mean NPPL??
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I can see if they DQ you for illegal software(whihc they should do more to you). But a little bounce is gay. you can get anything to bounce if you hold it right but out on the field your not gunna hold it some hlaf *** way to get one more bps. In chi. i had to use sob becuase my frenzy didnt work in my gun(i have a z and it was a lcd board) and they come how got me for bounce and i sat there after that game at the shooting range trying to get it to bounce and it was stupid. and it was in the semis(thank god we had a extra gun ready to go)
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Old 07-18-2004, 08:27 AM #63
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I hear ya guys. Hopefully someone from nppl will take this into consideration. I would rather fix my gun and make sure I'm legal before the game than wait until after the game and get DQd for shooting 4 to 5 extra balls out of 30. you figure each of our guys spent 1200 to do this tournament. 8 people x 1200 = $9600. Like I said...a VERY expensive lesson learned.
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