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Old 06-21-2004, 10:08 AM #1
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The modern ghillie suit is basically a garment covered or "garnished" with numerous strips and strands of burlap/jute and cloth and other natural material attached to the primarly garment. The strips and strands vary in lenght from 6-18 inches (whatever you perfer, and it's good to mix them around. RANDOMNESS) and are generally of subdued earth tone colors. A full ghillie suit including hat, jacket, and pants, may have as many as 1,000 strips and strands attached to it. These attachments are what make the ghillie suit so effective in breaking up the human form and blending with the area surroundings.

The strips serve three purposes, they break up the human silhouette, they replicate natural foliage, and provide a three-dimensional apperance to the suit. Color and components will vary with the environment in which you operate. Fine individual strands of burlap (jute) work well where the primary vegetation in the region is grass. A ghillie suit utilized in a wooded environment would be more effective using wider strips of burlap or cloth to replicate the leaf vegetation, commonly found in wooded environments.

The strips and stands allow the camo to have depth, or 3D which makes it field effective.The effectiveness can be enhanced even further by adding natural foliage and debris from the operational environment. You should also use basic camouflage techniques for you, and your equipment.

As the operator gets more field experience, he will realize the benefits of upgrading his camouflage to meet his surrounding environment. Additionally, experienced guys will realize the benefit of comfort built into your suit. Additional padding and a hydration system can prove to be very beneficial. A soft sided water supply, (Camelback) can be incorporated into the siut, as well as small strategically placed pockets for required items.

A full ghillie suit may weigh close to 15 pounds, and be pretty hot in warm, humid climates.
Strategically placed mosquito mesh in the suit will allow for some needed ventilation.

Ghillie suits come in two styles, one and two piece. The two piece is the most common and most used. The suit is usually made by using a common military uniform such as a pair of BDU's (Battle Dress Uniform) in woodland or desert pattern. Some prefer the solid OD, and some like the hunting, or new high tech patterns.
And there are different types you can make.
1. The Miltary type (Hat, Jacket, and Pants. Canvas on front, burlap on back) the kind i use, and showing you.
2. The Jacket/Poncho type (Hat or Hood and Jacket/Poncho. Canvas on front, burlap on back) Just use the jacket directions, skip the pants.
3. The Lightweight Hat type (Hat, and shoulders covered. The netting stops right below the shoulders, but you still put canvas and everything expect the netting part on the Bdu's.
4. The Big Fur all over type, which is just a plain waste of time. Not even going into that. You can't crawl or be stealthy in it, b/c the front burlap gets caught on things and makes tons of noise.

If you stand up most of the time playing paintball, dont even think about it. A ghillie alone, wont make you invisible, you have to use tactics, and know how to move. If you don't kick *** wearing just regular camo, dont give the people that do wear ghillies a bad name, and make one, thinking you will some how transform into a elite recon commando when you slip one on. I made this new thread, b/c i'm tired of people saying they know how to make one, when they dont know sh*t! People that crawl, and go out front and pick people off, and are GOOD AT IT, should consider trying it out with a ghillie. This is not for someone who goes out and hides away from everyone else expecting someone to come by for them to shoot. You don't even need a ghillie for paintball, I just like to wear mine b/c i was into Tactical & Shooting, "SNIPER" stuff, before i got into paintball. And it gives me ideas, and an excuse to go out and wear it, and kick some @SS at the same time. ANOTHER THING, YOU DON'T WANT TO LOOK LIKE A BUSH, (the expression: be the bush... bush is the jungle/woods/environment, not a bush it's self. just had to clear that up) YOU WANT TO LOOK LIKE NOTHING. TOTAL MELTATION INTO THE GROUND... You want to blend in with the FOREST FLOOR.

Jacket canvas.
Lay the jacket out, lay the peice of canvas on the jacket, and mark an outline of one side. With an outline of the jacket marked onto the canvas, the canvas is folded in half in order to cut a symmetrical piece.
Then I laid the canvas out onto the jacket and trimmed it up. Note, I choose to use a single piece of canvas on the jacket versus a two piece construction. This turns the ghillie jacket into a pullover. The advantage is a smoother surface for crawling with no buttons required to hold the jacket together.
Then slits were cut and the pocket flaps were pulled out. You can add velcro to the pocket flaps or can just use the buttons. You can remove all the buttons if you want, b/c the canvas holds the front together.
Now glue the canvas to the front. Glue was liberally applied under the jacket canvas and around the perimeter, and around the pocket flaps. This stuff starts to set quickly so you have to work fast to get it spread out.

Back vent.
A rectangle was cut out of the middle of the jacket to provide a vent for cooling. (You can make it as big as you like)
With the cut is made the jacket is turned inside out, mosquito netting is cut and placed over the back vent. Then it is glued into place. I also put vents under my armpits, for great air circulation. I could really feel the benefit of the vents while wearing the jacket when i got done. The red rectangles in Diagrams 1 & 3 represent the mosquito vents.

Elbow & Knee pads.
I put my bdu's on and laid on the ground in the prone position, i then marked (with permanent marker) where my knees and elbow were touching the ground. I then turn the bdu's inside out and where the marker soaked threw i put one mouse pad over the area, and squared it up. Now sew them into place.(before you sew you can put some shoe goo on them to, just for extra holding power.) These make great padding, not too thick so their flexible but thick enough to protect the elbows when crawling.

Pant canvas.
I laid the pants out, and cut long rectanglar shaped pieces of canvas, and laid them onto the front of the pants. If you want to, cut the cargo pockets off the side of the pants, or keep them on. I you think you will use them, keep them and work around them.(what i did) Get the marker and mark where the canvas needs to be trimmed and cut that off.
Now glue the canvas on the front. Glue was liberally applied under the pant canvas and around the perimeter, and around the pocket flaps. This stuff starts to set quickly so you have to work fast to get it spread out.

Extras.
-Loops on the end of arms (to put your thumb through to keep the arms from riding up while crawling.And leg cuffs to keep pant legs from riding up.
-You can add pockets where ever you like, just make sure they are in positions that are easy to get to..
-Camel back
-Glue a Pod Harness on the shirt before you put the netting on..
Whatever you can think of.
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Old 06-21-2004, 10:10 AM #2
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The Ghillie Suit Guide Continued..

Let me just say this, you get better as you make more. B/c you get the hang of it, and you know what you like and need.

Netting.
The 3/4" fish net was laid out for a rough cut to the jacket & pants dimensions.
You can use camo yarn, fishing line, dental floss, or military thread.
Note:
1. On the sides of the shirt, the netting should be cut about 1.5-2 inches out from the outside seams, to wrap around to the front.
2. On the front of the arms and shoulders, when you get done sewing the back part, flip the shirt over and cut the netting how i showed you in the diagram. This is to provide camo when you rise up.
3. On the pants, the netting should be cut 1.5-2 inches out from the outside seams, to wrap around to the front.
4. If you decide to keep the cargo pockets on the pants, refer to the daigram 6.
*cut the netting at the end of the pocket flap, and sew (red lines) like i have shown.
The hat, I use a boonie hat.
I cut a piece of netting like pictured in the diagram, and made sure it covered my shoulders (but not over my shoulders) and over where the netting starts at the jacket collar, hangs like 4" over that. (B/c you need it to overlap b/c of head movement, will cause the netting to rise and fall. You want it to overlap where you left off at the collar and shoulders at all times.) Or atleast make it so that the burlap hangs down over the points i just said.
Now when sewing the net to the hat, sew at the top perimeters, and every couple inches around the brim. Or just so the netting won't be moving around.

Sewing the netting was the most time consuming operation and the most boring. I sewed every square to the jacket & pants along the perimeters.

Colors.
It's very important to keep in mind the 60/40 rule. 60% natural vegetation, 40% man made. A Ghillie should be sparsely covered with burlap for a couple of good reasons ....
1. You never know what your surroundings will look like.
2. Colors change with the seasons no matter where your at.
3. Sparsely covering your ghillie makes it smaller, more compact, & more mobile.
* Even though half the time its 60% man made, 40% natural vegetation...
You shouldn't just use jute or burlap. You combine them together, it add to the randomness.
Use anywhere from 4-12 strands when you tie it to the netting.
The main color of your ghillie suit will be the most dominant color in your area.
You should only use 3 colors, the rest is natural vegetation.
Try to mimic the area the best you can.
I have heard of people that tie torn up earth tone colored wash cloths every now and then on there ghillies. Canvas, mesh (which is very cool to mix in there), but nothing the shines or shines when it gets wet.

I've heard keep it simple, and i've heard make it as elaborate as you like.
If you dont have the time to tie the burlap/jute on outside in your area of use, then take pictures and bring back samples (leafs, sticks, different foliage). So you can die the burlap the right color, and tie the colored burlap on like they are in your area (pictures). Again mimic your area the best you possibly can.

Here are some places of interest to me, and have everything you need.
Great site, and they know what they are selling, I'd prefer you buy from them, if you need to buy anything.
Tactical Concealment Manufacturing Company

Out of these two below, just buy a kit or something. And make sure you can pick the colors if you buy a kit, dont buy the pre-selected ones. I dont know how great the colors match what they have shown on there website. I have never delt with them, but i've heard bad, and good comments about there colors.
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It all comes down to, what colors are in your area. Don't get any colors that aren't!

If you have any questions about colors, PM me with a picture, or ask for my email, and i'll help you out. And questions on construction, just give me a PM.
But don't ask me how much it's gonna cost, b/c i think you can add and think for yourself.
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i just got a bottle of liquid nail and a sheet of camo burlap and i put lines across a camo shirt and pants then cut the burlap into strips 6 inch by 1 inch and put them allover the liquid nail and in about 1 hour it was done
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nah...i have one and use it. it's awesome..having people walk ON TOP of you...then you double tap them in the back of the neck...

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Ghillie suits rule. Rec ballers get it, speed ballers never will.
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Ghillie suites are as good as you want to make them. The more time and innovation you put into them the better and 'more proud' of them you are.

You can just buy a ghillie suit on line for $60-$150 but, whats the fun in that. You can customize a suit by sowing in a $30.00 camel-bak or a hidden pod holder.

A ghillie suit should never be washed and left out side until you need to use it. Roll it around in the dirt and use it to wipe up unusual messes

I love ghillie suites!
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for me I use a ghille blanket type thing. I made it myself and it unfolds out of a small pakc starppped to my back, it covers me and my suppport gun (really big) and I use it while lying prone in brush with my bipod deployed, usually defending an objecctive or some such. It works great, you can just wait for them to get close then let looose, or radio in their position. Being unseen is much more effective than dashing aound madly spweing paint.
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you have a bipod? *sighs*
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the front end of my gun is really long, and a bipod makes aiming it alot easier, plus Im a realism junkie.
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ghilie suits are sweet. i dont have one rite now im gonna wait until me and my friends go more then im gonna make one.
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Being in the army the Camel Back is one of the best inventions in the world, for those of you who don't know what a camel back is it's a plastic pouch in a backpack. The come in varying sizes too. Some run up to 120 bucks but for this you probably will only have to spend 30 like he said maybe 40. You can put ice in them too to keep your water cool, but just a suggestion dont put anything but water in them or the insides get all moldy and nasty if you dont clean it out proper with a squeegee, trust me I know coolaid molds up real good.
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I have one question to ask? how do you scratch your nuts in one of those things?
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CrazyWhiteGuy, I saw pics of your gun, that's some crazy ****!
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where can you see krazy white guys gun?
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