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Old 03-05-2001, 08:07 PM #1
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Cool

Anyone else seen this, i saw it in APG and went to the site www.icepaintball.com supposedly its a boltless gun. Really neat idea hehe, wonder how it works
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Old 03-07-2001, 07:22 PM #2
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Well basicaly

The Epic is an interesting Gun; I took a look at it at Zap Ams last summer.

The gun is CO2 and N2 compatible, and has a built in regulator. The regulator is in the grip frame.

There is really only 1 moving part in the chamber, and this is a sliding trap door that allows the ball to drop in, then it closes, and a spool valve is opened and the ball is propelled down the barrels.

I have no idea how a spool valve works, but I assume its some sort of quick dump valve.

All in all, the gun was a sound working system, although I did have some problems getting a high rate of fire, and I found the trigger to be a little stiff and heavy.

I hope this information has helped, if I find out any more information I will post it.
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Old 03-07-2001, 07:24 PM #3
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Yes, it has! interesting gun...although the price is WAY steep...750? is it worth that?
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Old 03-11-2001, 07:17 PM #4
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nope maybe 500 dollars at the least
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Old 04-21-2001, 03:44 PM #5
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regulator in the grip frame? Mannnnn...that was one of my great ideas that I had(like I ever have any great ideas). Oh well, so much for that one.
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Old 04-25-2001, 11:01 PM #6
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How does the "trap door" work? Is it on an hinge, or does it slide? Could it chop a ball?
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Old 04-27-2001, 10:16 PM #7
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A vertical feed would have been nice, but maybe it will come later.
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Old 05-21-2001, 09:10 PM #8
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When they say trapdoor I think Nova for some reason, an open breach with an articulating barrel.
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Old 05-31-2001, 09:43 PM #9
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Thumbs down 750!!!!

There is no way i would pay that much, not even 500, id say 350 at the most is what id pay, if the trigger was light, and the rof was atleast 12bps i might think about paying a little more but these people are asking an arm and a leg for a blowback, non-electro, hard trigger, low bps gun, NO WAY!!!
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Old 05-31-2001, 09:53 PM #10
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69...

I take it your one of those players who think ROF is everything...

Anyways look at Palmer's guns, those things are amazing and VERY pricey too, but IMHO they are worth it.
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Old 06-20-2001, 09:33 PM #11
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heres some pics of the epic



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Old 06-23-2001, 05:25 PM #12
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How does the "trap door" work? Is it on an hinge, or does it slide? Could it chop a ball?
It slides. It wont "chop" a ball, the door will stop, but it still fires the valve so the blast of air will probably still pop the ball.

I dont think this gun has any real value above oddity, it doesnt offer greater efficiency, reduced noise signature, ROF, reduced size... its just another gun. They want WAY too much for it too.
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Old 06-23-2001, 11:11 PM #13
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Anyone else thinks it looks a lot like a mag?

Yeah $750 for that? lol... it is electro or is it a mag clone?
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Old 06-26-2001, 11:07 AM #14
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The epic is truely a strange but quite efficent gun, it can use c02, n2 or compressed air and if u go the the website www.icepaintball.com they explain how that"trap door" works and it greatly reduces ball breakage, and most of the time eliminates it...strange gun, way to high a price, but it is a sound gun
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Old 07-18-2001, 03:12 PM #15
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anyone actually own one?
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Old 08-05-2001, 01:07 AM #16
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I heard they are making both an electric and verticle feed versions.
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Old 08-15-2001, 04:33 AM #17
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are you guys nuts?

think about it, one moving part? this gun is never gonna break down, is never gonna need an expensive and time consuming air-smith, is probably the easyest gun in the world to maintain, will never need a mod or upgrade, (just think about all the cash people end up shelling out on that crap) not to mention its probably the quietest (again no moving parts) most accurate (no kick) and most dependable gun ever made. if thats not worth 750 I dont know what is. if I wasent dead set on buying a matrix this would be the gun I would own, hell at 2.3lbs for the whole damn thing I might get two of em, get a couple of warp feeders and shoot it out double pistol style, theres your 18 bpm!
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Old 08-18-2001, 03:29 AM #18
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Go ahead and get the matrix Epics are pretty decent, but I'd still take a matrix over an epic.
BTW, I've shot both and own a Matrix
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Old 10-09-2001, 12:37 AM #19
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My friend owns one and I think personally it is the best marker I've ever shot. This thing has never let him down at our local field and is truly very easy to maintain
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Old 10-09-2001, 01:49 PM #20
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I used to own a Nova and that pos broke all the time. I think the price is so high cause they need to cover R and D costs and no one is buying the gun
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Old 10-09-2001, 02:35 PM #21
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Novas are awesome guns, you just probably didn't know how to clean it properly. Don't take offense to that, for the first month I didn't know how to properly clean the barrel assembly, so I had feed problems.

Now my Nova shoots VERY fast and accurate. Most quit gun ever too
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