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Old 04-15-2004, 01:20 PM #1
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Is the Nerve already outdated?

No falamming please... honest question here. I've read a couple of posts here on PBN and elsewhere where people say that the future of guns is the spool valve design like the DM4 and the Shocker. I don't agree or disagree with that, as a matter fact I have no idea how a spool valve works so I just can't coment. But if that is true why would SP be putting out a gun that from what people have said has the same basic internal layout as the Impulse and making that their flagship gun? Maybe some people were just mistaken and spool valve design ins't the future or maybe there are stll some advantages to the traditional bolt/ram/hammer moving and pushing the valve pin design. It just seemed strange that they would be putting out a US$1500 gun that supposedly has a less advanced concept than their US$700 Shocker. Any thoughts?

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Old 04-15-2004, 06:53 PM #2
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A spool valve... hehe, hehe... All electro pneumatic markers use a spool valve.
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Old 04-15-2004, 10:12 PM #3
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A spool valve... hehe, hehe... All electro pneumatic markers use a spool valve.
nope sorry, try again
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Old 04-16-2004, 05:30 PM #4
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A spool valve... hehe, hehe... All electro pneumatic markers use a spool valve.
a spool valve design is where your bolt and valve are the same piece or in the same one bodied package like the matrix and DM4
also i dont agree this design is the future of paintball guns
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low kick, super high cycling blowbacks and blowforwards baby
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Old 04-16-2004, 07:29 PM #6
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Just get a titanium striker Didn't know that about spool valves. I was thinking how cockers use 3-ways (which are mech spool valves) and those were just the electronic versions... Barg.
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Just get a titanium striker Didn't know that about spool valves. I was thinking how cockers use 3-ways (which are mech spool valves) and those were just the electronic versions... Barg.
it's called a solenoid buddy
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Old 04-17-2004, 02:16 AM #8
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SPOOL is really refering to the shape which means round like the older edition angels used 14-way spool valves
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SPOOL is really refering to the shape which means round like the older edition angels used 14-way spool valves
nope wrong again. angels are using the same 4-ways they've always used. it was a mislabeling on their part so they stuck with it.

spool valve markers include, matrices, novas, darkstars, shockers, etc.
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yes i know which markers are spool valves but if you look at the outside of an 2k2 or older angel you will see it is spool design i believe it was the LED's that used this the most
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How the heck would you tell that the gun has a spool valve by its outside shape??? I think you are confused a bit?
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yes i know which markers are spool valves but if you look at the outside of an 2k2 or older angel you will see it is spool design i believe it was the LED's that used this the most
angels never used a spool valve.....
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can someone explain exactly how a spool valve works?
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it works some what like a blowforward design used on mags but only the bolt and valve are intergrated as one the air is moved sround by using sleeves and then channeled through the hole of the bolt

but i could be wrong i've only seen an taken apart one matrix bolt assemblely
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Yes that's it. In essence the bolt is its own valve. Just because the assembly is round dosen't mean it's refeered to as a spool-valve design. This means Shocker, Matrix, Mayhem, Assault-80.
Angels are stacked open bolt electropneumatics and Shocker Sports use a hammer-less dump chamber.

Kangaroo I believe you're are confusing the spool section of the soleniod with the term "spool valve".
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who ever said all electronic markers use spool valves, they dont, the cocker uses a regular pin valve.
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who ever said all electronic markers use spool valves, they dont, the cocker uses a regular pin valve.
i dont recall anyone in this post saying that way to many guns use pin valves along with a solenoid of SOME SORT
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A spool valve... hehe, hehe... All electro pneumatic markers use a spool valve.
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He meant the spool section of the soleniod, not the design of the gun.
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angels are not spool valves for christ sake. You can look in them and see the hammer, ram, and valve pin......
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But their soleniods have spool pistons in them.
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