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Old 01-01-2002, 08:06 PM #1
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Question Considering making a computer

I know how to put the hardware together, I have an idea of what I want to buy, I can spend around 700, I want a tower case and AMD cpu with at least 256mb DDR ram. I am asking your opinions on what to buy (I might make it in april so any parts comming up would be great too) I need help figuring out whats all going in my new box. Thanks in advance.
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Old 01-01-2002, 08:38 PM #2
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athlon xp 1800
nforce chipped mobos are coming out, they have an onboard geforce 2


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An onboard geforce 2 mx, yick.
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Old 01-02-2002, 09:06 AM #4
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are the nforce-based mobos any faster than, say the kt266a based mobos?
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dont get onboard video it sux. onboard video is for the cheapasses that buy gateways and dells. get a board by ASUS or ABIT - asus for stability - abit for speed - it is your pick. those are the 2 best boards for AMD chips on the market. a geforce mx would be a great video card to get for your price range. get the 64mb version its like $60 on pricewatch.com . then get a SB Live! value or digital. and make sure that you get an ATA100 hard drive. I love IBM deskstars they are fast and easy to use. (western digitals you have to hook it up as an ATA66 then format it then get a utility from their site and set it up as ATA100, its just not worth it) and make sure you get an ATX case with a 300watt powersupply. then whatever burner your in for. you should be well under $700 with that system - unless your buying a monitor.
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I dont think the nforce mobos have the memory bandwidth the KT266A's have, the KT266A's are the fastest out there right now hands down for AMD. I would not pick a nForce board just yet, too new, which is why you cannot also compare its onboard video with current oboard video. I don't think nVidia would include onboard video if it looked like ***.

New IBM drives are unreliable, almost as bad a Quantum.
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Old 01-02-2002, 02:35 PM #7
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I can go higher then a 60 video card. I am thinkin maybe a Geforce 3 Ti 200, just wanna know how much a difference is between the 200 and the 300. Oh and when does the Athalon XP 2000 come out. I heard it was this month. I was looking more for specific parts, I know that I need an ATX case, and onboard video sucks. If you guys know any specific componets that I can look into that would be great too.
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Old 01-02-2002, 03:14 PM #8
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get an Antec or a hydraulic case for looks and ease. get an abit or asus motherboard. Athlon XP whatever speed your able to get with your $$$ supply. SB livE! sound card. GeForce whatever your looking to spend. any kind of cheap cd-rom will work. plextor 16x rw drive. IBM deskstar ATA100 7200rpm 40gb HD. cheap ol floppy. and a bunch of fans. cheap and easy
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Asus A7V266-E KT266A Chipset 266/200MHz FSB Motherboard with Raid and Sound -

VGA PNY Geforce3 TI200 64MB DDR TV/DVI

AMD ATHLON XP 1900+/266 FSB PROCESSOR CPU

CRUCIAL MICRON 256MB 32x64 PC 2100 DDR RAM

MITSUMI D359M3 FDD 1.44MB 3.5INCH

IBM EIDE HARD DRIVE 40GB 7200RPM

SONY 52X MAX EIDE INTERNAL CD-ROM DRIVE

Creative Lab Sound Blaster 16 PCI Sound Card <-- why live over this?

LINKSKEY LKF-5100 10/100 (Realtek Chipset) PCI ETHERNET

Thermalright SK-6, ALL COPPER, Heatsink with Delta 60X60X25 38CFM fan.

The total is almost 800, not including the case. I am thinking the price of that will drop after about 2 months go by. Any suggestions would be great. I was looking at the MAXTOP CSX-147K for a case, its got a 300w power supply, 2 fans, atx, and its a mid tower. costs 48 and looks nice and easy to put things in and out.
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i would suggest you drop the processor down to an 1800 and take the 60 bucks you save and upgrade that sound card to an audigy gamer. the reason you upgrade the sound is so that you get positional audio and all around better sound, as well as faster sound processing. but trust me, its a worthwhile tradeoff, unless youre deaf. you really wont miss the 70 mhz that much.
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you could use a different flavor of audigy if you want, its essentially the same card with different software packages and an audigy drive if you go w/ the platinum.
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ENLIGHT EN-7237AZ MEDIUM TOWER CASE-340Watts Power Supply

Abit VIA KT266A Chipset Motherboard Model KR7A

Gainward/Cardexpet GeForce 3 Ti200

AMD ATHLON XP 1800+/266 FSB PROCESSOR CPU

CRUCIAL MICRON 256MB 32x64 PC 2100 DDR RAM

MITSUMI D359M3 FDD 1.44MB 3.5INCH

Seagate Barracuda IV ST340016A 40gb 7200rpm EIDE

SONY 52X MAX EIDE INTERNAL CD-ROM DRIVE

Creative Labs Sound Blaster Audigy Xgamer

LINKSKEY LKF-5100 10/100

GLOBALWIN's WBK38 CPU Heatsink & Delta Dual Ballbearing Fan


This is my revisions to my previous computer setup. Any advice would help thanks. Oh and would the Xgamer v another (cheaper) audigy be able to render sound quicker in large movies?
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Old 01-06-2002, 10:18 AM #13
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where could i learn about building computers and hardware on my own? Any websites? Just sorta interested.
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its actually not as hard as some people make it seem. just be careful to ground yourself before you grab something and be nice to all the parts and youll be fine. most wires only plug in one way, and are fairly universal (such as the power wires). be sure to run your hard drives in the right order, and dont force anything. if it gives you a lot of resistance and you have tried pushing as hard as you want to push before you think it will break, and you have tried wiggling it back and forth, call the guys you bought it from or post here, ill be happy to help, as it will make you one less person that could potentially come screaming to me with "my computer doesnt work, fix it!"
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Old 01-07-2002, 01:17 AM #15
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I can go higher then a 60 video card. I am thinkin maybe a Geforce 3 Ti 200, just wanna know how much a difference is between the 200 and the 300. Oh and when does the Athalon XP 2000 come out. I heard it was this month. I was looking more for specific parts, I know that I need an ATX case, and onboard video sucks. If you guys know any specific componets that I can look into that would be great too.
ti 200, not for 60 bucks
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did you read what he said? he can go higher than 60 for a vid card.


dead: i just noticed that youre getting a regular cdrom. how much is this costing you? depending on how cheap youre getting the cdrom, you may want to consider an upgrade to a dvd player, which i can find for like 60 oem (or a purdy pioneer slotloader for 80), or maybe even a cdrw drive, and you can find 24x10x40 burners real cheap now. like 90 bucks for an acer retail box. another thing you may want to consider is changing that card back to a known brand. now, maybe im just ignorant, but ive never heard of gainward/cardexpert, and that worries me. i find it is a lot easier in the long run to spend the extra couple hundred overall and buy name-brand components in retail packaging (for the most part) and know that either it will work or you have a clear idea who to call to ***** at if it doesnt. i like that.
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get the soyo dragon plus motherboard.... it has decent 6 channel sound built in.... it is a very killer mobo.
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Oh, anyone can install that stuff. But how many actually know what the **** it means? I would like to learn that.
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terry please make a new thread to ask a question like that. I decieded to forget about the other mobo and get the Soyo Dragon +. Its fast has network card, sound thats decent, and a smart card reader for my digital camera. Several review sites deemed it as one of the best choices.
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f00l! asus rUlx0rz!!!
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ehhh.... Asus is overpriced, slower, less stuff comes with it, and a little bit more stable. I like the options and speed of the soyo so I am pickin that one.
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