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Old 08-18-2014, 10:09 PM #1
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is the valken impact chest protector legal?

Sorry for asking this but I just recently bought this chest protector and have heard that it might not be tourney legal even if I wear a non padded jersey.

I'm new to paintball and I've look around for answers and I'm confused on what to wear or don't I hear different side of stories and if some one can just clear that up for me I'll be greatly appreciate it.
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Old 08-19-2014, 12:05 AM #2
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wear it at cup and let us know.

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Old 08-19-2014, 12:11 AM #3
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playing world cup in a chest protector? man i hope i play against you
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Old 08-19-2014, 08:49 AM #4
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No it is not.
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Old 08-19-2014, 12:00 PM #5
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No it is not.
wait what? Can you site a rule? I thought you were allowed to wear 1 layer of clothing under your jersey - including pads. If chest protectors aren't legal then are slide shorts/knee pads/arm pads legal? Can you site a specific rule identifying the difference?
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Old 08-19-2014, 12:14 PM #6
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wait what? Can you site a rule? I thought you were allowed to wear 1 layer of clothing under your jersey - including pads. If chest protectors aren't legal then are slide shorts/knee pads/arm pads legal? Can you site a specific rule identifying the difference?
Will find and cite rule when I get home.
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Old 08-19-2014, 12:42 PM #7
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5.1.1.1. Either the jersey or the undershirt may be padded as per 5.1.4. but not both

5.1.4. Padding in jerseys is not limited to specific areas; provided that the thickness does not exceed 5
mm ( 0.197”) Padding material is limited to an open cell foam and must not be modified from the
manufacturer's original form.




I guess if you meet that criteria you are good
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Old 08-19-2014, 12:55 PM #8
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Jersey may be padded or undershirt may be padded. Padding must meet certain requirements as well. I'd leave it at home and just wear a padded jersey.
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Old 08-19-2014, 01:41 PM #9
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Jersey may be padded or undershirt may be padded. Padding must meet certain requirements as well. I'd leave it at home and just wear a padded jersey.
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Old 08-20-2014, 02:16 PM #10
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I saw a picture of that chest protector on google images and it looks way too thick to be legal. I don't mean to discourage you, but if you're using a chest protector to play and it's not for a medical condition, you're probably not ready for the PSP. It's kind of like wearing a life vest to an olympic swimming event. Start with your local/regional events and build experience. You'll be glad you did.
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Old 08-20-2014, 02:18 PM #11
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I saw a picture of that chest protector on google images and it looks way too thick to be legal. I don't mean to discourage you, but if you're using a chest protector to play and it's not for a medical condition, you're probably not ready for the PSP. It's kind of like wearing a life vest to an olympic swimming event. Start with your local/regional events and build experience. You'll be glad you did.
Weird, I remember a few years ago when probably 15-25% of people I saw at events had Proto/Empire/Eclipse chest protectors. I guess since they were marketed as 'bounce pads' they weren't lame?
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Weird, I remember a few years ago when probably 15-25% of people I saw at events had Proto/Empire/Eclipse chest protectors. I guess since they were marketed as 'bounce pads' they weren't lame?
Those were experienced players wearing them for a competitive advantage. This is a different case - it's a new player. I don't know if you saw the picture but this one is more or less body armor.
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Old 08-20-2014, 02:24 PM #13
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playing world cup in a chest protector? man i hope i play against you
I think its ironic that you made that comment about this guy wearing a chest protector when in your signature it says, "don't judge the looks of the player, judge the skill of the player".

But yeah chest protectors are kind of lame. Either way though, bring it to the event and simply ask a ref before your match.
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Old 08-20-2014, 06:36 PM #14
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If they're legal - they should be worn by everyone it has nothing to do with being lame or not. The bounces you get from them are pretty unreal - much moreso than from a padded jersey. I have an eclipse one and the padding seems just as thick as the arm pads, which are definitely legal. I'm actually a little confused about the difference between an arm-pad and a bounce-vest...

Regardless, If they're legal... wear them. Bounces > looking ridiculous
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Old 08-20-2014, 08:21 PM #15
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If they're legal - they should be worn by everyone it has nothing to do with being lame or not. The bounces you get from them are pretty unreal - much moreso than from a padded jersey. I have an eclipse one and the padding seems just as thick as the arm pads, which are definitely legal. I'm actually a little confused about the difference between an arm-pad and a bounce-vest...

Regardless, If they're legal... wear them. Bounces > looking ridiculous
because arm/elbow pads are specifically allowed while padded undershirts (that exceed the max thickness) are prohibited?
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Old 08-20-2014, 10:01 PM #16
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because arm/elbow pads are specifically allowed while padded undershirts (that exceed the max thickness) are prohibited?
Doesn't say that.

5.1.1.1. Either the jersey or the undershirt may be padded as per 5.1.4. but not both

5.1.4. Padding in jerseys is not limited to specific areas; provided that the thickness does not exceed 5
mm ( 0.197”) Padding material is limited to an open cell foam and must not be modified from the
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Doesn't say anything about padding in the undershirt. You could 'imply it' maybe as a stretch... but idk. You could just as easily 'imply' that they meet the same regulations as arm pads because they're both undergarmets
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Old 09-06-2014, 09:51 PM #17
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Doesn't say that.

5.1.1.1. Either the jersey or the undershirt may be padded as per 5.1.4. but not both

5.1.4. Padding in jerseys is not limited to specific areas; provided that the thickness does not exceed 5
mm ( 0.197”) Padding material is limited to an open cell foam and must not be modified from the
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Doesn't say anything about padding in the undershirt. You could 'imply it' maybe as a stretch... but idk. You could just as easily 'imply' that they meet the same regulations as arm pads because they're both undergarmets

The rule you just posted exactly says that the undershirt is limited to the padding requirements of rule 5.1.4
Unless you "mis-typed" what you were trying to say your basic reading comprehensions skills not some attention : )
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Old 09-07-2014, 02:16 AM #18
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No it just says that either the undershirt or jersey may be padded. Then it says the jerseys are limited in padding. You're implying that that also refers to undershirts because they were compared earlier - not the way the rules are written. Especially since the rules aren't written sequentially there are rules between them.

Not that this would ever happen, but implying that the rule applies to both would never hold up in court. If they both have padding restrictions, then 5.1.4 should be amended to say that
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Creyes......u are absolutely wrong, 5.1.1 clearly says they "may be padded as per 5.1.4"

Rule 5.1.1 specifically refers to section 5.1.4 as the definition for appropriate padding.
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Old 09-13-2014, 12:23 PM #20
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I would agree with coyote here... Creyes, It does look like reading comprehension is not your forte. 5.1.1 clearly refers to the information in 5.1.4. Making your most recent comment invalid and misleading. It's obvious you're not a lawyer so referring to amendments and what would happen in the court of law is also invalid and misleading.

Would be nice if someone could provide a definitive answer to this question. Like someone who knows 100%. Maybe a ref or Pro?.. Not someone trying to read and interpret rules. It's been pretty back and forth on allowed or not. and playing with semantics isn't fun.
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