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Old 03-01-2004, 08:06 PM #1
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Is there a loophole in this mess?

Hey guys, is this an international patent? If not, AKA can move to mexico and manufacture their guns there...with slave labor. No joke. Then they can come back and rape sp.

All this kinda scares me...who will they go after next? Intimidators? Bushmasters? Argh. If they try to touch national, they are asking for it. I hope national (with empire heck ya) tears them a new one so big they die from internal bleeding.
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Old 03-01-2004, 08:17 PM #2
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I believe both ICD and NPS have settled with SP.
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Old 03-01-2004, 08:17 PM #3
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Re: Is there a loophole in this mess?

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All this kinda scares me...who will they go after next? Intimidators? Bushmasters? Argh. If they try to touch national, they are asking for it. I hope national (with empire heck ya) tears them a new one so big they die from internal bleeding.
Both of those company's just bent over when smart parts wiggled their finger. The people buying timmy's and bushy's have been paying SP royalties for some time.
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Old 03-01-2004, 08:19 PM #4
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Unfortunately, that's not how it works. Since SP has a US patent, AKA would be barred from selling infringing products in the US.

Also, SP has already signed a licensing agreement with NPS, and reached an out-of-court settlement with ICD.
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Old 03-01-2004, 08:20 PM #5
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Could they be "sold" in Mexico/Canada and distributed in the US?
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why doesn't aka just go with the royalties?
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Old 03-01-2004, 08:23 PM #7
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most likely they will go after the logging industry, i mean, he who controls wood for fire CONTROLS THE MASSES!!!! or back to reality, they will go after anyone that infringes on the patent they have. I would? i wouldnt want someone stealing my idea, would you?
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Not legally.


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Could they be "sold" in Mexico/Canada and distributed in the US?
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most likely they will go after the logging industry, i mean, he who controls wood for fire CONTROLS THE MASSES!!!! or back to reality, they will go after anyone that infringes on the patent they have. I would? i wouldnt want someone stealing my idea, would you?
if you knew anything, you would know SP didnt have any ideas for people to steal. they stole every "innovation" they have. - Tony
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The only loophole i see is if AKA sells the gun w/o electronics, or at least the switch
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Or maybe hood is a retarded homo?
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sell the gun and frames sepertate and market the frame as an impulse upgrade.
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Old 03-01-2004, 09:22 PM #13
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Found a loophole.

http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.p...49#post4394949
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Unfortunately, that's not how it works. Since SP has a US patent, AKA would be barred from selling infringing products in the US.
then how are WDP and Kingman importing and selling their products without encountering any SP opposition?
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SP is free to selectively enforce its patent. They simply haven't gotten around to suing every infringing manufacturer yet.


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then how are WDP and Kingman importing and selling their products without encountering any SP opposition?
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then how are WDP and Kingman importing and selling their products without encountering any SP opposition?

Maybe it has to do with the fact they both companies put out sear-trippers. That and Kingman has more money than god in the paintball world. They would be the one company that would bury SP.
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whats wrong with collecting on a idea though? the first electroneumatic marker? if its such BS then why are they winning.....
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Old 03-01-2004, 10:19 PM #18
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whats wrong with collecting on a idea though? the first electroneumatic marker? if its such BS then why are they winning.....
its actually quite simple. all it really takes is money. my father in law works in mediation between insurance companies during claims disputes. he also works with other lawyers in various other fields. he has shown me case files in which a personal claim, however valid, is beaten down with legal proceedings. the larger firm simply strings the smaller company/indiviual along untill the money dries up. once the smaller company/indiviuals funds are depleted, their ability to fight in court is virtually non-existant. this, of course, applies to almost every legal dispute.
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Old 03-01-2004, 10:24 PM #19
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The only way to negate the SP patents is to either find a patent that applies that pre-dates the SP patents... or to prove that electronic firing mechanism's are actually a natural progression of the technology.

THe later would probably be easy to do... If you could get the case to a jury. The problem is that SP is taking on small co.'s with no capital to fight a court battle long enough to get the decision before a jury.
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Old 03-01-2004, 10:40 PM #20
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I bet you won't see them sueing companys bigger then them. Such as Kingman, Dye, JT, WDP, Worr.

Didn't dye allow SP to usee their spiral valve patent for exchange for their patent?
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Old 03-01-2004, 10:45 PM #21
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it is virtually impossible to go after companies like kingman and wdp because they are foreign companies.
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