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Old 08-11-2014, 06:23 AM #85
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As surprising as it is that Dynasty got relegated, nobody's gonna speculate on the questionable way Infamous came to STAY relegated??
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Old 08-11-2014, 07:56 AM #86
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As surprising as it is that Dynasty got relegated, nobody's gonna speculate on the questionable way Infamous came to STAY relegated??
I still cannot see a hit on Damian and/or anyone from Revo with an angle to hit him
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Old 08-11-2014, 09:29 AM #88
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I love the champs/challengers format. It's hard to question it's fairness when out of the 10 teams playing champs at Cup 6 of them have spent some time in challengers this year and only 2 out of 10 have been able to avoid having to play for relegation. I understand it sucks for the sponsors to have their teams playing in the lower division and not getting as much exposure. But speaking strictly from a fans standpoint, it has kept me glued to the webcast and it creates a whole new story line to keep me enthralled.
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Old 08-11-2014, 09:37 AM #89
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Old 08-11-2014, 10:05 AM #90
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I agree the only legit teams in the challengers are infamous, shock, and dynasty. The rest don't really stand a chance in the champs division. Honestly 187 is not a real contender either, I would say the same for vicious but they did manage a 2 in Dallas.
187 was the only team to beat Art Chaos the entire weekend.


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X-factor - 2013 World Cup winners relegated and now back in Champs
Infamous - Won Dallas Open and now can't seem to get out of the challengers.
Dynasty - Won MAO (can they get out of challengers?)
Is Impact next to join the relegation trend?
Hahahaha, once I understood your post I agree with it. I cleaned it up a little. You're right. Impact and Art Chaos better be careful at World Cup. The winners from three events in a row got relegated.


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Lang as a back guy is not the smartest idea! Maybe they are all getting old.
The games he went up the middle were some of my favorites Dynasty played. I wish they'd tried to be more aggressive.


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I'm not so sure about that... or maybe you're just getting older...

I seem to remember some pretty crazy events... off the top of my head:

The NPPL Boston that rage won. Top 3 or 4 there were unexpected.
Infamous' first event
The NPPL in the Midwest with the infamous "Tie"
Maybe the PSP at Nemacolin when the Russian Legion won D1/Open that event.

I know I'm forgetting some other crazy stuff.
I hope we all get older. It's better than the alternative.

NPPL Boston was more crazy because of who didn't make it. XSV and Dynasty both didn't make the cut, but neither were shut out. We took 4th that event, and it actually wasn't a surprise to see Rage win. They'd been getting better and better and Fat Kid was playing out of his skin.

The NPPL with the tie was just a dumb promoter decision. Possibly one of the dumbest.

And Russian Legion had been on fire in Europe. Every single smart pro team was already terrified of them.

But none of those events were webcast in this quality so you could watch and be part of the moment, even from your couch.
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Old 08-11-2014, 10:53 AM #91
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The relegation format and having to fight to stay in it seems great, and I don't think it should go away, but I do wonder how different things would look if you can't get relegated if you win one of the major events of the season.

There are only 4 events leading up to WC. If you win one of those 4 events, you should get to play at WC.
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Old 08-11-2014, 11:10 AM #93
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Infamous looses to Revo and will also be in Challenger's for World Cup! This is the craziest event in memory. Amazing.

Props to PSP for making the 4th event interesting again!
Agree.. been watching the webcast since the first event last year.. and i was at edge of my seat for this one. Alot of great games.. most of the games the first day and most of the second day were 6/5 matches... and we finally had good weather...cant wait for World Cup!!!!!!
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Old 08-11-2014, 11:15 AM #94
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The relegation format and having to fight to stay in it seems great, and I don't think it should go away, but I do wonder how different things would look if you can't get relegated if you win one of the major events of the season.

There are only 4 events leading up to WC. If you win one of those 4 events, you should get to play at WC.
If that was the case, then no one would care that Dynasty lost out. People would just think they didn't care because they have a free ride to World Cup. We'd all think they could have won their relegation game if they wanted, but they are just allowing Heat to play Cup too...

Instead, it was one of the most tense games of the entire tournament. A top team was going to miss Cup and it was decided on the field. Sam Monville called it the most intense game he has ever played. And that man has played in what, 4 World Cup finals?
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Old 08-11-2014, 11:22 AM #95
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Harmons major was not deserved but our beating was we got I think 5 penalties that match and couldn't stay alive for nothing it was not anything I'm proud of
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Glad Revo beat infamous after that bs they pulled against aftershock.
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I still can't believe Dynasty got regulated into the challengers division; but it happens and they will get out and be right back in the champion division
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Old 08-11-2014, 12:12 PM #101
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Harmons major was not deserved but our beating was we got I think 5 penalties that match and couldn't stay alive for nothing it was not anything I'm proud of
I was rooting for you guys.


And here's the first full length match video from the event:

Dynasty vs Art Chaos from Friday.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hur5iprOin8
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From the "core" professional teams of previous years (circa perhaps 2012 and slightly before the implementation of Challengers/Champs), here how it has played out for reference:

Infamous: played in numerous relegation matches, now relegated for 2 events and counting

Dynasty: never relegated until just now, WCO was perhaps their worst performance at a PSP tournament in memory

X Factor: relegated, back into Champions for WC

Damage: played one relegation match, never been down to Challengers

Houston Heat: has been bumped down to Challengers via relegation once, now remaining in Champions

Vicious: Relegated a couple of times, now managing to stay in Champions more consistently the past few?

Russian Legion: total team reformat, bumped down to challengers, now more consistently seeing time in Champions

Edmonton Impact: never relegated, consistent Champions performances over the past while

Chicago Aftershock: has frequently bounced between Challengers and Champions

CEP: stuck in Challengers as long as I can remember

Extra - XSV: stuck in Challengers as well after coming over from mainly NPPL

POINT BEING, the Challengers division has touched MOST of the "core" professional teams of the recent past, with really only Impact and Damage managing to never get relegated. Minus XSV, that is 8 of 10 at some point being bumped down.

I'm all for this format because it keeps it demanding and entertaining, and if we want to grow the sport to be more spectator friendly, having this drama should continue to be a key tenant. If the Euro Football relegation style was a part of OTHER professional sports, just imagine what it would be like
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Ironmen - played one relegation match to secure their spot in the 2013 World Cup.

Art Chaos - started in Challengers at the start of 2014 and won their spot in Champions convincingly. Immediately relegated the very next event and again won their spot then won the very next Champions event.

Upton 187 - Has played for relegation more than any team so far. Relegated twice.
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