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Old 07-02-2014, 09:17 PM #1
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Spyder Fenix vs ?? Help

I'm turning 30 in August. I played paintball a ton from 16-19 and havent set foot on a field since.

Budget $250.
Need: Gun/Mask/Pods/Belt/Oil etc.
Preference: Woodsball/Scenario

I was set on getting a new Spyder Fenix... until I read about it on the forums here and they got lit up.

I'm going to my local paintball store tomorrow... Both which are 45 minutes away. I'm in Libertyville, North of Chicago.

DiscountPaintball or PBexplosion is where I'm heading. I havent decided.

Should I wait for a used Proto to pop up? Used Ion? I'd really like a gun that I can slowly mod over time.

I really didn't want a gravity fed gun. US Army?

I've done some searching here, but I really need a direct answer. Thank you!

Please don't reply "Spyder sucks" or "Get Empire"... a small explanation will help out a resurrecting noob that can't wait to get back into this.
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Old 07-02-2014, 09:31 PM #2
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Ok I just found a thread that helps me out.

Used seems to be the way to go,

Mini or Empire? Over Fenix?
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Old 07-02-2014, 09:33 PM #3
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get the mini of anything, but you need bhp a with that if not it'll break, and a motorized hopper with that
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Old 07-02-2014, 09:42 PM #4
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I'm having trouble finding used minis in my price range. Ebay sucks to sort through and I don't trust it too much for a mark.

Hopefully one of the stores will have a decent selection!
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Old 07-02-2014, 09:58 PM #5
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The Azodin looks like a decent gun new around $170.
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Old 07-02-2014, 10:36 PM #6
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From a long series of bad experiences, stay away from spider or azodin. If you are willing to settle, I hear the tippmann chronus is pretty solid and can get after market mods to make it look beast.
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Old 07-02-2014, 11:17 PM #7
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Ions are fun guns to mod and can be found for super cheap
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Old 07-03-2014, 10:08 AM #8
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Thanks for the tips! I'm definitely staying away from Spyder. I think I'm going to give Azodin a shot.

Turns out I have 0 paintball stores near me. Closest one GPS says 55 minutes... I do have 2-3 fields within 20 minutes, but they only sell paint.

A little frustrating. I'll be purchasing my gun online, but I will have to make time to go buy a mask and extra gear etc.
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Old 07-03-2014, 11:33 AM #9
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Old 07-03-2014, 02:02 PM #10
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Thanks Burning Playdoh. I didn't go all out on a $90 mask, but I did get a $55 JT mask that will work for now. So amazing the differences in all the masks...

needless to say.. I'M ADDICTED.
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Old 07-06-2014, 07:10 PM #11
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I've played with spyders since the late 90's. I my self just got back into the game last year after being out for about 10yrs. The first thing I looked for was a spyder. I bought a used fenix and upgraded everything I could. Also did the same with a Azodin Blitz. They both work great. No complaints.
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Old 07-09-2014, 03:44 AM #12
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I've played with spyders since the late 90's. I my self just got back into the game last year after being out for about 10yrs. The first thing I looked for was a spyder. I bought a used fenix and upgraded everything I could. Also did the same with a Azodin Blitz. They both work great. No complaints.
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Any marker that you buy should work with proper care. Some companies have poor quality control and ship out lemons that need some servicing to get them up and running. Not saying that you should have to do that at all, when you buy a marker it should just work. This is the main reason you have people hating some of these companies. It's just that they hate them forever from one bad experience. I have had issues with every marker I own from leaks out the box to boards failing. I own Empire, Tippmann, Azodin and Dangerous Power and they have all had issues.

When someone tells you to stay away from this brand and go for this brand it's mainly because they have biased opinions. Spyders when shot have kick like Tippmanns. Azodin markers do not have this shot feel especially when they have the Zero-D system. Empire makes great markers (little overpriced) but great markers and they are much smoother than the STBB platform. You just have to remember that we all don't like the same thing when we are buying our markers.

Tactical, Speedball, Poppet, Spool, STBB you have to pick what you like and research it. If you are a person that enjoys feeling kick and vibrations while shooting then grab a Tippy or Spyder. If it's a smoother shot your after then trust me Azodin is a very nice place to look. If you need smoother than that then I would recommend trying a used Empire axe/mini. Also use this site to your advantage, search the Manufacturers threads and read up on what people have to say about the markers you are looking at. Just be sure to know a fan boy from a PRO.

This is all my own opinion and also my honest thoughts on what people have told you so far. I am also trying to keep your budget in mind. The last thing I want is for you to buy something that I recommend and then you buy it and hate it.

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Old 07-09-2014, 07:45 AM #13
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people steering you away from spyder probably never owned one. they are a solid marker and do the same thing all others do. fire a paintball at 300 fps. the Fenix is a great marker to start with. i would suggest the electra for a little better board and weight reduction. just keep it oiled and a battery in her and she will shoot for you. plus if you have any problems they are usually an easy fix. the kingman/spyder section on here will be more than happy to help you with any issues that pop up. the guys that lurk in there know their stuff as well.
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Old 07-09-2014, 09:03 AM #14
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Based off of my personal expierence I would stay away from the Fenix. It was the first gun I had, and the first time I took it to the field it leaked, and a beginner me had no clue how to fix it. I'm sure that not all Spyders have issues, but mine did, and that's why I'd rather go with an Azodin or a used Mini.
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Old 07-09-2014, 09:46 AM #15
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if i were to suggest a marker for a new person to learn on and have a good experience with.. Gog eNMey. it is a mech but shoot very good and surprisingly fast for a mech gun. if you can spend the extra the tippmann crossover is a great choice gives you electro when you need speed and mech when you want to save paint. i will be picking up one of each soon
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Old 07-09-2014, 10:04 AM #16
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I too would rather go with the eNMEy or an eXTCy over the fenix or Azodin line of markers. They are much smoother and faster(in terms their mechanical markers) than the STBB style markers that the Fenix and Azodin is. Plus, they operate at a lower operating pressure, making softer with paint. I've shot evil through my eNMEy on multiple occasions with zero problems. Also, every single one of the GoG line of markers come with a regulator, which is huge.
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Old 07-09-2014, 07:46 PM #17
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Get something from smart parts/gog. Find an old upped ion if you can. They're probably going to be your best bet in your price range.
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Old 07-14-2014, 03:25 PM #18
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The azodin blitz is a great gun for the money and I highly recommend it.
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Old 07-14-2014, 03:30 PM #19
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Old 07-14-2014, 04:26 PM #20
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Considering your stated budget it might be best to forgo anything more expensive than the eNMEy for now.
Pick up one of those and don't skimp on your mask or tank and you'll be all set when you have enough money/interest to buy a very fast gun... assuming you'll want to.
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Old 07-14-2014, 04:41 PM #21
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I would go with the eNMEy too. So much fun to shoot.
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