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Old 02-20-2004, 05:49 PM #1
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Arrow Help me decide

I have narrowed my choices of guns down to the cyborg and a 04 Viking...can anybody give me pro's and cons to both. I am mid/front guy and like a gun that isnt to heavy. I am coming of a 2k3 vert feed ebladed cocker.

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Old 02-20-2004, 07:22 PM #2
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cyborg is smaller i am looking into getting one soon
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Old 02-21-2004, 01:45 AM #3
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Tried reading the numerous other threads asking this same question...again...and again...and again...?
Or the numerous reviews of the Cyborg by people who know there stuff?
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Old 02-21-2004, 03:37 PM #4
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both guns are a good choice, it would help if you got to shoot both and compare but it is probably a little hard since the borg is so new. the cyborg is much smaller than the vik, thats all the advice i can give.
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Old 02-22-2004, 04:09 PM #5
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I also have narrowed my guns down too, but I would like some help 03 shocker, or Cyborg? How much more is the cyborg than the vision shocker. I am a front man will it keep up with me?
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Old 02-22-2004, 04:54 PM #6
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lol, if u think you are going to outrun the borg at 30bps u are kidding yourself.
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Old 02-22-2004, 05:32 PM #7
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I am a front man will it keep up with me? are u refering to the abuse that front men often inflict upon their gats cuz if ur talking about bps a mere 15bps should keep up with u.... cuz if ur rockin more than that ur either playin back or not one is shootin at u
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the borg is almost as light as the shocker, we compared the two in new zealand and i think the cyborg had the edge on the shocker plus it was quieter.
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Old 02-22-2004, 08:01 PM #9
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I sold my '03 Shocker to get a Borg.
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james@macdev...did the cyborg have the edge just because it was quieter or what is just overall better except for profile
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mychmicalrom4nce Yes that is exactly what i mean. And yes I do shoot over 15bps, I shoot around 17bps on avaerage.
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ya I don't belive any gun has the edge over another just because of it's sound. I am kind of leaning torwards the shocker cause it does 25bps smaller lighter and I know I will not be shooting 30bps so no reason to spend 100 more for 5 balls faster unless someone can convinse me that it is better.
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Old 02-22-2004, 09:58 PM #13
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i would never get a shocker, they took the single stack body idea from AGD. if you want something single stack, get a emag. atleast you know you will be buying quality.


as for the cyborg, thats what i am getting as soon as i get the cash, look excellent
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i would never get a shocker, they took the single stack body idea from AGD. if you want something single stack, get a emag. atleast you know you will be buying quality.


as for the cyborg, thats what i am getting as soon as i get the cash, look excellent
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Take a gander at the B/S/T forum, and count the number of 03 shockers for sale. Then go buy a Cyborg.
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luv2pb the shocker isnt as efficient as the Cyborg for one thing and yes the shocker is lighter and smaller and 5 bps isnt much...but i personelly hate sp for the simple reason that they r sewing everyone becuase theyre products are crape and no one will buy them so they se everyone who makes an electronic marker. but i have also read that the 03 shocker isnt nearly as good os the older ones but it is whatever you like in your handes i personelly like shorter taller guns
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ya I don't belive any gun has the edge over another just because of it's sound. I am kind of leaning torwards the shocker cause it does 25bps smaller lighter and I know I will not be shooting 30bps so no reason to spend 100 more for 5 balls faster unless someone can convinse me that it is better.
Sorry, but chances are your not going to be shooting over 23 BPS. Get a borg. Its got a smaller profile which is a lot better if your a front guy. The shocker is a gas hog, and even though its lighter your going to have to make up for it by carrying around a larger tank. But if you have your heart set on a shocker, go for it. Personally, I'd rather save the extra 100 for the borg.
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personally i think the cyborg shot better, it had tighter grpupings at longer range. i'm not bagging the shocker because it has it's good points as well!
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Either go for a 04 viking or borg, I love my viking its bloody fast,Super efficient, and there is no maintaince besides just oil and your set for the day. Out of the box it rips and you don't really need to upgrade it only if you want. But the cyborg looks like amazing gun there is many review and there is a good one in the aka forum and it was the borg agaisnt viking that should help you out with your choice. But one day I hope to own a borg so my viking has a new brother.
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Old 02-23-2004, 05:23 AM #20
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The Shocker was an OK gun, but I found myself messing with it more often. In between games I was lubing the bolt and I was taking appart the reg and lubing that.
I'd rather spend my time between games talking with my team and getting ready for the next game, not working on my gun.
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Old 02-23-2004, 08:36 AM #21
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Well i have my 03 shocker and soon to have a Cyborg.

I only have used the Mk1 Cyborg and the Mk1 03 Shocker

My 03 required airsmith work to WORK properly straight out of the box, it took me 2 months to get it working properly. Then dwell, rof, all - fiddle - fiddle - fiddle.

No one has complained in my neck of the woods that his Cyborg doesn't work immediately !!!!

the Cyborg was quieter than the Shocker
the trigger was better on the 03 shocker

the the Cyborg weight balance was better with the no drop forward
- i have medium size 9 hands, i cant hold the 03 without a drop forward

the accuracy seemed about the same.

the efficiency of the Cyborg is at least 2.5 times that of the 03
the recoil was weenie bit more than the 03

the Cyborg was better made, and has more meat to mill if you are "that way" inclined.
But the 03 Shocker looks sleek and sexy immediately.

Once i have upgraded the 03 to 2004 standards i will compare it to the 04 Cyborg.
That will mean the Cyborg will be at least 2/3'rds the price of a Shocker.

GET a Cyborg...
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