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speed 10 41.67%
z2 14 58.33%
vmax 0 0%
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Old 06-27-2014, 01:36 AM #1
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loader comparison

Pinokio speed vs z2 vs vmax
Just wanting to know what is the best option. Pros and cons of them would help a lot.
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Old 06-27-2014, 08:49 AM #2
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Z2 is a good loader. But the speed is lighter. And that is something I look for when buying gear. Ie I shoot a 45ci instead of a traditional 68
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Old 06-27-2014, 08:59 AM #3
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The Vmax2 isn't terrible, but the vmax1 was hit or miss.

The z2 is a very good loader with a low profile and amazing support from Kee.

The speed may be the best loader on the market, but it looks like an impaled manatee. For that reason alone, I wont own one.
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Old 06-27-2014, 09:05 AM #4
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Why did you leave out the rotor? I prefer the z2 over all other hoppers. I really enjoy its jam free abilities as well as its quiet operation. The z2 also has a nice small profile.
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Old 06-27-2014, 09:41 AM #5
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Why did you leave out the rotor? I prefer the z2 over all other hoppers. I really enjoy its jam free abilities as well as its quiet operation. The z2 also has a nice small profile.
I left out the rotor because 200 is a little ridiculous and I had one and it jammed all the time
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Old 06-27-2014, 10:30 AM #6
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The speed may be the best loader on the market, but it looks like an impaled manatee. For that reason alone, I wont own one.
best description of all time. To the OP, used Rotors are like, $90
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Old 06-27-2014, 10:39 AM #7
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BTW, to those having jamming issues with rotors, this actually worked for me: http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?t=4045383

I just slid a -008 (square oring/ tetraseal) oring down over the top of the black stem. Now the top rotor spins on an oring and is held in there without slop. It seems to have done the trick. I also have the stack tension adjustment screw out slightly past flush.
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Old 07-16-2014, 05:15 PM #8
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Speed all the way.

I hate my z2, and love my 1st gen pinokio. So I'm guessing that the speed is even better than the last gen pinokio.
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Old 07-16-2014, 05:41 PM #9
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I might buy a pinokio purely out of curiosity but man that thing is ugly, and probably has the dumbest loader name out there. I understand the reference but product names referring to fairy tale characters is just weird IMO. My z2 has been awesome, I actually like it a bit more than my rotor although the rotor is solid.
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Old 07-16-2014, 07:55 PM #10
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The Speed is a fantastic loader.

Pros:

-Lightest loader on the market
-Nearly impossible to jam
-Extremely easy on brittle paint
-Great battery life
-Water resistant
-Very easy to clean
-Extremely simple and reliable
-Fantastic customer service

Cons:
-The feedneck design is very annoying. It has a bunch of ridges in it which are supposed to make sit more securely in the feedneck, but it has the opposite effect.
-It's really ugly


The Z2 is also a great loader.

Pros:

-Adjustable settings and configurations that allow you to choose how you want the loader to perform.
-Does not jam often. When it does, it has a rip drive.
-Light
-Good on batteries
-Easy to clean
-Looks nice (IMO)
-Nice Capacity
-Fantastic customer service

Can't really think of any cons.

These two loaders share a lot of strong points. However, the Speed surpasses the Z2 within most of these points. The Z2 doesn't jam often, but the Speed jams even less. The Z2 is light, but the Speed is even lighter. The Z2 has good battery life, but the Speeds battery life is even better. You can not go wrong with either loader. I love both of mine, but when put head to head, I would recommend the Speed.
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The Speed is a fantastic loader.


The Z2 is also a great loader.

Pros:

-Adjustable settings and configurations that allow you to choose how you want the loader to perform.
-Does not jam often. When it does, it has a rip drive.
-Light
-Good on batteries
-Easy to clean
-Looks nice (IMO)
-Nice Capacity
-Fantastic customer service

Can't really think of any cons.

These two loaders share a lot of strong points. However, the Speed surpasses the Z2 within most of these points. The Z2 doesn't jam often, but the Speed jams even less. The Z2 is light, but the Speed is even lighter. The Z2 has good battery life, but the Speeds battery life is even better. You can not go wrong with either loader. I love both of mine, but when put head to head, I would recommend the Speed.
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I love my Z2, and love my v1 w/ Z2 backbone even more, but they're still not perfect.
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Old 07-16-2014, 11:14 PM #12
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I owned a Z2 and just bought a Speed. Honestly I am more impressed with the speed. I always like the pinokio internals the best. The shell is now very tank like compared to the old pinokio. They also put quite a bit of thought into the ergonomics of the pinokio which makes it the best feeling loader on top of a marker imo. It feels weighted correctly which is pretty important to me as I use a lot of Gravity Fed loaders (switching back and forth feels awkward a lot of the time). Pretty awesome loader.

I never played around with my Z2 settings much but it always seemed to want to use the reverse to unjam function on me which was a bit annoying.
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