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Old 07-14-2014, 01:20 AM #274
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Just a few things: 1. Easier picture posting. I've been to other message boards that allow me to drop pics right into them from my computer. That would also help the B/S/T section which I will touch on in the next point. 2. Personally, I feel like the B/S/T section is getting worse and worse over the past year or so. People refuse to follow any of the posted rules from the mods, and there seems to be little done in reference to the problem. People also refuse to read the OP's post, and will spam their offers on numerous threads, even if the OP clearly states "no trades, price is firm, etc". I almost feel like everyone thinks they are in a pawn shop and can offer low balls in every thread and it has just become accepted behavior. On other paintball forums that I frequent, this is a NON ISSUE. PbNation is the best paintball site in the world, but a change in the general culture of the B/S/T forums would be for the best.

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Old 07-14-2014, 09:35 AM #275
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So what's your solution to stopping the lowballs?
Perhaps suspending posting privileges in the B/S/T forums for an extended period of time for not following the guidelines of people's threads. I'm sure the mods would be overwhelmed at first, but if it is shown that the B/S/T forums are under a culture change, then the posters will change. Like I said, I have zero problems posting on other paintball forums under other sites. It would be nice if everyone could share the same experience here considering the size of this site compared to those others.
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So what's your solution to stopping the lowballs?
Buy it now feature using paypal and pbnation takes a cut . They deserve it for the man hours to develop that .
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Old 07-14-2014, 01:10 PM #278
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Just a few things:

1. Easier picture posting. I've been to other message boards that allow me to drop pics right into them from my computer. That would also help the B/S/T section which I will touch on in the next point.

2. Personally, I feel like the B/S/T section is getting worse and worse over the past year or so. People refuse to follow any of the posted rules from the mods, and there seems to be little done in reference to the problem. People also refuse to read the OP's post, and will spam their offers on numerous threads, even if the OP clearly states "no trades, price is firm, etc". I almost feel like everyone thinks they are in a pawn shop and can offer low balls in every thread and it has just become accepted behavior. On other paintball forums that I frequent, this is a NON ISSUE. PbNation is the best paintball site in the world, but a change in the general culture of the B/S/T forums would be for the best.
I couldn't agree more about picture posting.

I just don't think this is true though: "People refuse to follow any of the posted rules from the mods, and there seems to be little done in reference to the problem."

Test it out yourself, click on the top 20 BST threads and post a link here along with what site rule each one breaks. Then report each issue and see how many are still there 48 hours later.

I am not saying, everyone follows every rule, but we can't have an intelligent conversation here if you start off by claiming that people aren't following any of the rules and mods aren't doing anything to stop it. That's just silly.


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Perhaps suspending posting privileges in the B/S/T forums for an extended period of time for not following the guidelines of people's threads. I'm sure the mods would be overwhelmed at first, but if it is shown that the B/S/T forums are under a culture change, then the posters will change. Like I said, I have zero problems posting on other paintball forums under other sites. It would be nice if everyone could share the same experience here considering the size of this site compared to those others.
I don't think you have a good grasp of how impossible it would be for us to enforce the made up rules every individual posts in every thread they make. If you read them, often they are just cut and pasted and go against other things they ask in the thread. Just as an obvious example, there have literally been thousands of threads here made that say "no trades" where the user discussed a trade or even accepted one.


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Buy it now feature using paypal and pbnation takes a cut . They deserve it for the man hours to develop that .
That would be cool, but I am not sure about us taking a cut. I'll have to think about it. Do you think people really want it that bad?
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Old 07-14-2014, 01:22 PM #279
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Buy it now feature using paypal and pbnation takes a cut . They deserve it for the man hours to develop that .
Easily one of the best ideas I have seen idk about the % thing as in what % they deserve. Maybe paypal takes 3% pbn take 1% And to John if someone has the money why not just take it right then and do the deal. Only problem is if someone is working on a trade and it's pending what do you do then? Love the idea tho because there needs to be a smoother process for someone to pay the full asking price And I do worry this will lead to high buy it now prices which will slow down the amount of guns moved
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Old 07-24-2014, 02:54 PM #282
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Old 07-24-2014, 05:51 PM #283
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To improve the poor BST quality, there should be a minimum post amount (100 posts, spamming resulting in temp ban) and also have to be a member for 3+ months to even access the BST portion of the site.

If you wanted to take it a step further, make it mandatory that all users enter their age on the profile (doesn’t have to be public) and put an age restriction on doing deals in BST.

Side note: “Number game” threads to get post count up should be closed. Let the real top posters earn their title.
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To improve the poor BST quality, there should be a minimum post amount (100 posts, spamming resulting in temp ban) and also have to be a member for 3+ months to even access the BST portion of the site.

If you wanted to take it a step further, make it mandatory that all users enter their age on the profile (doesn’t have to be public) and put an age restriction on doing deals in BST.

Side note: “Number game” threads to get post count up should be closed. Let the real top posters earn their title.
I like that.... I think the 3+ months wait would cut down on scammers.....
I like the post count requirement too... I think You're on to something here......
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To improve the poor BST quality, there should be a minimum post amount (100 posts, spamming resulting in temp ban) and also have to be a member for 3+ months to even access the BST portion of the site. If you wanted to take it a step further, make it mandatory that all users enter their age on the profile (doesn’t have to be public) and put an age restriction on doing deals in BST. Side note: “Number game” threads to get post count up should be closed. Let the real top posters earn their title.
Yeah **** the number game unless it really helps your ad revenue
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Cool idea but I think it would cause problems. Let's leave this one to EBay.
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For all those complaining of lowballs, I hope you never go to the open air, retail markets of places like China, Egypt, etc. If "haggling" isn't something you'd like to do, just put "firm" behind your price or place it on Ebay with a BIN.

I view every lowball as the opening act in a negotiation. Simply turning that person away only shows that you either: a). do not have time to haggle b). are poor at haggling c). your concept of worth for your marker is inflated or d). you're not prepared to work a bit to get top dollar for your sale.

If you think lowballs are bad on Pbn, try the Facebook sale groups. You'll get lots of lowballs simply because 12 year old Johnny only makes $50 a week cutting all of the neighbors grass and he's offering what he can afford.
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For all those complaining of lowballs, I hope you never go to the open air, retail markets of places like China, Egypt, etc. If "haggling" isn't something you'd like to do, just put "firm" behind your price or place it on Ebay with a BIN. I view every lowball as the opening act in a negotiation. Simply turning that person away only shows that you either: a). do not have time to haggle b). are poor at haggling c). your concept of worth for your marker is inflated or d). you're not prepared to work a bit to get top dollar for your sale. If you think lowballs are bad on Pbn, try the Facebook sale groups. You'll get lots of lowballs simply because 12 year old Johnny only makes $50 a week cutting all of the neighbors grass and he's offering what he can afford.
Amen

People don't understand if you are asking $500 your price is usually $40-50 high. So they offer $400 which is usually $40-50 too low and you meet in the middle somewhere. If they say they can't do that on to the next guy.

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Cool idea but I think it would cause problems. Let's leave this one to EBay.
Why it's revenue for them ?

You want things cheap then pay the price .

Ie if you have a wooden stand in the Dominican Republic prepare to get haggled . If your store is on 5th avenue in NYC then you won't get lowballed as much
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