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Old 04-17-2014, 06:03 PM #1
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Aftermarket Barrels for M17 Opinions

Now that I have my M17 CQC I'm looking for a longer barrel(doesn't every guy want a long one) so I have been looking into what is out there and I see a Trinity that is rifled, I also like J&J ceramic (not rifled) Hammerhead rifled and w/ fins (spendy tho) as well as possible other options. I'm wanting to max the use of FSR ! Opinions please. What have others used ? I'm thinking 14 or 16 In.
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Old 04-18-2014, 12:05 AM #2
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Why a long barrel?
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Old 04-18-2014, 01:39 AM #3
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I assume it will make shots more accurate. I have mounted a scope and plan to position myself to snipe shots rather than do a lot of running. I'm 61 and out of shape as well as being 50 overweight so I don't move like the kids do.
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Old 04-18-2014, 08:47 AM #4
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Length won't do much for accuracy.

Paint to bore match will.

However, you said you want to maximize your FSR capability so I would recommend getting one of the Lapco FSR barrels. Or one of the hammerhead FSR barrels. They may be pricy but in the end they will do a lot more for your sniping then a longer cheaper barrel that doesn't fit FSR very well.
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Old 04-18-2014, 09:58 AM #5
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Anything beyond 8" does nothing. Tests by numerous people have proven that, and I noticed it myself when I tried my 12" Deadlywind and 8". No difference in velocity or accuracy between the two.
I prefer the sorter 8" barrel. It's much easier to haul around. And I get distance shots no problem.
For long distance, I would focus on getting a good quality scope.
After doing the research, I picked up a Hawke crossbow scope.
Very nice scopes.
I also have a primary arms reddot. Awesome reddot that never loses center.
All the cheap ones I tried would lose center, be too dim for the bright Cali sun, or both.
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Old 04-18-2014, 03:15 PM #6
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I have played with the LAPCO .683 FSR barrel and the Hammerhead riffled barrel with a .686 back. Both were about 16" long and were with the LAPCO Hushshot 8" tip since niether barrel is ported. I also compared this to a Dye 14" ultralight barrel in .686 that came with my DAM.

The LAPCO and Hammerhead riffled barrels BOTH offer considerable advantages to accuracy at long distances when firing FSRs.

With my DAM, I shoot FSRs and regular paint through it so I wanted a barrel that could do both. I started with the LAPCO and if I was shooting just FSRs, this would be my first choice. However, the tight bore was not good on regular paint especially since I play scenario events and can't always control what paint I'll be playing with. This is why I switched to the Hammerhead. With the selectable fins (I have .686 and .689 fins) I can still shoot regular paint but have the riffling to improve my FSR shots. If I was only shooting standard paint, the Dye UL would be my choice as it is shorter and a bit better on standard paint.

With the M17 you can shoot both paint but since you mentioned you wanted to play mainly with FSRs, I'd suggest the LAPCO barrel first and the Hammerhead second.

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Old 04-18-2014, 06:08 PM #7
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I just picked up a hammerhead that looks to be about 14" maybe 16" w/ 2 fins, .583 & .686. I'll test it along w/ the stock barrel to see if I can tell a difference. I have already got an AIM 4-9 X 40 Scope and I am working on a camera mount for it as I plan to do HD video. The field I will be on is 60 acres w/ a large open area about 2 football fields in size w/ several forts/bunkers etc. The rest is woods. This game will get 1200 to 1500 players, so plenty of targets. There are already 600+ registered and we have 2 weeks till game. go to SUPERGAME.TV
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Old 04-21-2014, 05:27 PM #8
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Robotech had a good post. I agree the Lapco is the best, but for FSR only. The advantages to having an longer barrel is it is easier to aim down the barrel and sight in, and you can stick it through bushes and shrubs, also it's slightly quitter (than a shorter barrel of the exact same type). I use a 14in lapco big shot on my M17, so I can shoot any type of paint I want, but I wouldn't use that as a main barrel for FSR.

42 Delta, I'm going to Supergame as well, my first time. I'm hoping I'll like it. I like sneaking a lot, and I'm not so sure I'll be able to do that with so many people.
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Old 04-21-2014, 05:38 PM #9
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I just picked up a hammerhead that looks to be about 14" maybe 16" w/ 2 fins, .583 & .686. I'll test it along w/ the stock barrel to see if I can tell a difference. I have already got an AIM 4-9 X 40 Scope and I am working on a camera mount for it as I plan to do HD video. The field I will be on is 60 acres w/ a large open area about 2 football fields in size w/ several forts/bunkers etc. The rest is woods. This game will get 1200 to 1500 players, so plenty of targets. There are already 600+ registered and we have 2 weeks till game. go to SUPERGAME.TV
My team and I will be heading up that way for Supergame. We're the SoCal Ghosts. It's my first time but the other guys have been up there a number of times. I'm looking forward to it!
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Old 05-06-2014, 05:02 AM #10
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Bare 8n mind that the Lapco FSR barrel will be in efficient on air. The bore is a 683 and literally grabs the fsr with this tight bore requiring more air to get the fsr through.
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Old 05-06-2014, 07:50 PM #11
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Length won't do much for accuracy.

Paint to bore match will.
^ This. 100%. Matching your paint that you're shooting for the day to the inner diameter of your barrel is the best way to improve your accuracy. Length has very little to do with this.

Check out the FLASC Control Bore Barrel Kits.

They are affordable, and allow you to utilize different backs to match your bore sizing options, as well as different tips that will allow you to change your length, porting, and muzzle break options.
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Old 05-06-2014, 07:52 PM #12
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^ This. 100%. Matching your paint that you're shooting for the day to the inner diameter of your barrel is the best way to improve your accuracy. Length has very little to do with this.

Check out the FLASC Control Bore Barrel Kits.

They are affordable, and allow you to utilize different backs to match your bore sizing options, as well as different tips that will allow you to change your length, porting, and muzzle break options.
Paint to bore will help with efficiency.
Paint quality, and barrel quality determine accuracy.
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Old 06-27-2014, 11:35 AM #13
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If it wasn't said above, Hammer Head, it is what I run. People from the other side always comment how I can out range them by 20-30 ft, and when I tell them I'm only shooting at 250-260 fps they are really shocked.
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Old 06-27-2014, 12:28 PM #14
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Paint to bore will help with efficiency.
Paint quality, and barrel quality determine accuracy.
If the paint is too small in the bore of the barrel it can "bounce around" while traveling down the barrel and not leave the barrel at the exact same angle every time. While the jury is still out on the benefits between under and over boaring, if you can get REALLY good paint that is consistant is size, shape, and roundness the traditional way of paint to bore matching, I feel, will give you the best precision from your marker.
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Old 06-27-2014, 07:15 PM #15
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This is the grouping of my CQC at 20 yards with my 8" palmers brass.
I didn't have my stock on the marker.
Some of the shots are actually right on top of each other.
I had about 2-3 wild balls not even hit the target at all.

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This is the grouping of my CQC at 20 yards with my 8" palmers brass.
I didn't have my stock on the marker.
Some of the shots are actually right on top of each other.
I had about 2-3 wild balls not even hit the target at all.

I dig your 'shooting range' setup
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Old 07-09-2014, 11:57 AM #17
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I dig your 'shooting range' setup
Yeah. Cheap to make. Easy to clean. And it collects all the shells in the tray.
Keeps the wife happy.
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Yeah. Cheap to make. Easy to clean. And it collects all the shells in the tray.
Keeps the wife happy.
And we all know, if the wife aint happy, nobody is
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