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Old 05-16-2014, 02:43 PM #85
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You seemed pretty impressed with yourself, but that almost seems... deceptive.
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Old 05-16-2014, 03:03 PM #86
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I am very excited to get mine!. This is turning out to be exactly what I wanted the progression of the Independence to be!
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Old 05-16-2014, 04:11 PM #87
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This one is not a progression of the independence line. The Deception is an entirely new gun.
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Old 05-16-2014, 06:29 PM #88
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I know that...I should have said the progression of Alien's high end marker!
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Old 05-18-2014, 06:59 PM #89
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Got the first shooting video done today of the latest prototype. Its so close I can almost taste it. Just waiting on a few things to come together before I post it up but it should be posted by the end of the day if the fans on the facebook page play along. lining up the rear of the grips, the Deception is half inch longer than the g6r *from rear of the trigger frame to the tip of the foregrip* and one half inch shorter than the LV1. Still sitting right around 1 pound 8 ounces. The response from those who saw it at the field today was amazing. This one is well worth the wait for those of you who have been waiting patiently *or not so patiently* for the last few months.
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Old 05-18-2014, 07:10 PM #90
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Super excited to see it!
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Old 05-18-2014, 07:32 PM #91
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Old 05-19-2014, 01:36 AM #92
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Can't he just post up the video without making us wait?:/ I really want to see a shooting video. I also think it would be really cool if you could make a video with a cf boomstick or ul on it (for sound purposes).
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Old 05-19-2014, 10:15 AM #93
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For cereal???? We have to wait for likes on fb???
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After shooting the gun Sunday, what we can say is:
Indy had a 36 gram Rammer. We tested Deception with both the 20 gram and the 6 gram aluminum. The 6 gram now performs as well as the 20 gram.
We have one more valve revision, which we are thinking is the final, instead of a spring return it's an unbalanced piston.
We also tested the more open bolt, and the sweep - for maximum flow. Because the firing pressure is decidedly lower we needed to make sure the sweep wasn't restricting flow. It isn't, and those that like the Sweep will enjoy this gun even more, lower pressure = calmer air = better shot.
Nothing but praise from everyone that saw the gun at the field. Many said they would post their comments, too bad we're not seeing any.
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Old 05-19-2014, 11:27 AM #95
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Can't he just post up the video without making us wait?:/ I really want to see a shooting video. I also think it would be really cool if you could make a video with a cf boomstick or ul on it (for sound purposes).
I can do that as soon as my deception arrives.

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After shooting the gun Sunday, what we can say is:
Indy had a 36 gram Rammer. We tested Deception with both the 20 gram and the 6 gram aluminum. The 6 gram now performs as well as the 20 gram.
We have one more valve revision, which we are thinking is the final, instead of a spring return it's an unbalanced piston.
We also tested the more open bolt, and the sweep - for maximum flow. Because the firing pressure is decidedly lower we needed to make sure the sweep wasn't restricting flow. It isn't, and those that like the Sweep will enjoy this gun even more, lower pressure = calmer air = better shot.
Nothing but praise from everyone that saw the gun at the field. Many said they would post their comments, too bad we're not seeing any.
That's awesome! any chance that the Deception would come with both rammers? (or have one available as an upgrade for us techies?)

Good call on double-checking for restrictions, glad to hear the sweep will still be in there ^_^

Do we know (roughly) what operating pressure range the Deception is at? Purely curious.

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The most current prototype of the Deception. The barrel he is using in the video is not what will be included with the gun. Also the valving will be different, I had this shot right next to a geo 3.1 and they sounded just about the same but the geo was a higher pitch for a comparison.


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Old 05-19-2014, 02:13 PM #97
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Def sounds more like a spoolie then a popit
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Old 05-19-2014, 03:34 PM #98
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That video is a 4 on 4 - just happened that Scott got all 4 kills that game. I think Griffin only took a video of a couple of games.
Scott came off the field, that game, saying that the Sweep works even better with the lower shooting pressure of this gun, that this is defiantly the best shooting gun we have ever made.
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Old 05-19-2014, 03:58 PM #99
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I got this one and one of him trying to run from the corner to d3 with 7 alive. it ended poorly for him haha
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Old 05-19-2014, 05:35 PM #100
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Well then, I think I might have found my next purchase after seeing/hearing the shooting video...
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Old 05-19-2014, 05:37 PM #101
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Well then, I think I might have found my next purchase after seeing/hearing the shooting video...


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Old 05-19-2014, 05:40 PM #102
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Wow, the sound of the shot is INCREDIBLE. Definitely saving up for this bad boy, might even have to sell off my Invasion to afford it
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Wow, the sound of the shot is INCREDIBLE. Definitely saving up for this bad boy, might even have to sell off my Invasion to afford it
I agree! The sound is awesome!!!
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Old 05-19-2014, 06:28 PM #104
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Just for the sake of posting all the footage I have.
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Damn they look pretty damn good, Sound pretty good shooting. sounds smooth.
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