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Old 08-09-2014, 07:28 AM #379
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How is that a "terrible argument"? i asked you a straight question. have you ever mass produced a marker?? im guessing you havent. so how do you know the process? maybe he is to busy to check the forums everyday. he might even have a family and a life outside of paintball. shocking to think, i know! and if you're soooo concerned about updates,call alien. im sure jack would answer the phone. but i honestly believe you are not interested in updates, you're just posting questions because you can.
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Old 08-13-2014, 02:53 AM #380
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How is that a "terrible argument"? i asked you a straight question. have you ever mass produced a marker?? im guessing you havent. so how do you know the process? maybe he is to busy to check the forums everyday. he might even have a family and a life outside of paintball. shocking to think, i know! and if you're soooo concerned about updates,call alien. im sure jack would answer the phone. but i honestly believe you are not interested in updates, you're just posting questions because you can.
But he never asked any questions...
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Old 08-13-2014, 03:18 AM #381
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So I held the deception. The reasons it ain't now are because the things that are bring fixed are damn well worth it.

This thing is ****ing light. And it's dense. It's a beautiful combination and the LPR placement will be fantastic and like no other marker.

Maintenance should be a ****in' breeze as well.
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Old 08-13-2014, 08:53 AM #382
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This thing is ****ing light. And it's dense. It's a beautiful combination and the LPR placement will be fantastic and like no other marker
Quoted for Truth! When I held one at PBE and talked with Jack, I couldn't get over how astoundingly light and balanced the marker felt.
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Old 08-13-2014, 10:39 AM #383
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So I held the deception ... reasons it ain't now are because the things that are bring fixed are damn well worth it.
Thanks for the nice comments, I heard that when Griffan showed it at the event players really liked the gun.
I want to restate - not as much fixing, it worked very well, the changes are the spacing of the front grip and mostly in eliminating any shake in the gun. Forward or backwards vibration both get lumped into "kick".
That was the choice, accept it as is or stop and redesign and once we shot the quieter version it was clear that to not do that was to make it less than it could be.
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Old 08-14-2014, 04:02 AM #384
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Old 08-16-2014, 12:03 AM #385
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Man I just want to hold or try one!

It will either be this or cyborg 6 for me
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Old 08-16-2014, 12:36 AM #386
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I have a lot more faith in this gun then the j4. Since the beginning.
I am a strong believer in that when a company is new and first gen product is made. It will suck. Alien has been around. So you guys got it!
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Old 08-16-2014, 02:54 PM #387
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Man I just want to hold or try one!

It will either be this or cyborg 6 for me
I got to hold both at PBE, and the Deception had my jaw on the floor.

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I have a lot more faith in this gun then the j4. Since the beginning.
I am a strong believer in that when a company is new and first gen product is made. It will suck. Alien has been around. So you guys got it!
J4 is a new company, so they're still ironing out a few kinks here and there, but I think once they get the kinks worked out, they'll have a nice little platform to work off of.

The Deception is a different beast entirely from the aforementioned marker, and I'm a very tried-and-true person so I like sticking with what I know works. The Deception is going to be one hell of a marker, and there's one with my name on it. I also have a Torque coming in at some point, mine should be in the batch of tech markers that is being re-boarded and eye-modded (I think).
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Old 08-16-2014, 03:25 PM #388
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How can I go about trying one or holding one? I never owned a alien, but after looking at this I want too
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Old 08-16-2014, 06:09 PM #389
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We will have some demo markers sent out to various dealers but Im expecting to get enough sold that every major field will have at least one floating around
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Old 08-18-2014, 02:30 PM #390
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Well I hope a field by me gets one.

Hope to see one by me.
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Old 08-18-2014, 03:28 PM #391
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Well I hope a field by me gets one.

Hope to see one by me.
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Old 08-18-2014, 03:47 PM #392
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I'm by cpz badlandz explosion. Lmk if theirs one their.
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Brief update - still trying to get the date to fly over and pick up the parts - but we are really almost there now.
ProMod - get me an address and I'll send the gun that doesn't have the LPR and you can do your thing with it until the real one gets here.
I sent the gun to Ed from the team that represents Angelic Rage - the store - and got very good comments, like he was wondering if it needed the LPR. I assured him that once you shoot with an LPR you want it.
Ed said they were filling to about 4,000 and he got 8 pods and a hopper so over 1,300. Therefore at 4,500 that's 1,500 in actual play and that is with the valve opening not being exact as it should be and the dwell high to be very sure there weren't any issues.
Anyway Ed said he would post but it's been a couple of days and not yet.
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Old 08-20-2014, 09:59 PM #394
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Wonderful! I sent you an email just a moment ago.
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Old 08-28-2014, 03:39 PM #395
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I have to be honest, I am really hoping this thing gets a solid 12+ pods (maybe my expectations are a smidge high, but I hope it's in the 'realm' of possibilities even with a little fine tuning)
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Old 08-28-2014, 04:48 PM #396
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Entirely possible. What we are getting with the non lpr gun and a roughly measured valve leads me to believe its going to be in that neighborhood
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Old 08-29-2014, 12:21 PM #397
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Old 08-29-2014, 01:04 PM #398
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Right now we are getting daily updates on the machining and it leads us to believe that we should have guns in hand sometime late september of not, early october. Should be in time for cup.

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