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Old 03-17-2014, 11:19 PM #1
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G4 Lube

I bought a used G4 for and the previous owner says he used baby oil to lube up his bolt and it works good, what do you guys say about that?
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Old 03-17-2014, 11:20 PM #2
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No baby oil EVER.

http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?t=3457681

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Old 03-17-2014, 11:26 PM #3
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Because it does not work well.. it washes its self off. It drys up the solenoid, and its BABY oil. Come on man, common sense says that it does not even sound like it would work well.

Use a paintball grease that sticks and does not wash its self off. Read that thread I posted, it explains everything on how to keep the G4 running tip top every time you use it.

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Uh you sent me a link to a up'd shocker. and what lube would you recommend?
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Old 03-17-2014, 11:38 PM #6
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I would use sl33k, lurker lube, etc. NEVER use baby oil or anything else like that. Militia or Monkey Poo works as well. Some people still surprise me with what they put in their markers
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Old 03-17-2014, 11:41 PM #7
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I don't have a lot of money to spend on lube so im trying to keep it under $10 after tax and shipping, what are some good budget lubes?

Edit: Theres this stuff on ansgear called gold cup oil, would you guys recommend that?

Super Edit: I found slick honey for cheap this would work good for my G4 right?

Super Duper Edit: I actually have this lubrication i use on my bike chain called Rock N Roll GOLD Lubrication, its petroleum based and highly flammable, im thinking it won't work lol, but i want confirmation from you guys, don't want to be spending money on things i dont need now.

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Old 03-18-2014, 12:11 AM #8
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lurker lube is $8 and works great on these guns. I have been using it for years.

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Uh you sent me a link to a up'd shocker. and what lube would you recommend?
im sorry http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?t=3457681

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Old 03-18-2014, 12:50 AM #9
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Well i ended up buying a 2 oz tube of slick honey grease and read that it works good on the G4. Since the G4 i am buying comes with a bob long 360 reg instead of the stock one, should i lube that up as well as the bolt? I'm getting scared when i read further into that post firefox, I dont want to break anything on accident...
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Old 03-18-2014, 04:59 AM #10
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Well i ended up buying a 2 oz tube of slick honey grease and read that it works good on the G4. Since the G4 i am buying comes with a bob long 360 reg instead of the stock one, should i lube that up as well as the bolt? I'm getting scared when i read further into that post firefox, I dont want to break anything on accident...
slick honey should work well with that reg too. basically dangerous power's stock lube sucks, big time. so much so that it's the main cause of problems for the g4 (aside from user error of course). also marker oils are not recommended for spool type markers like the g4, which is why any grease type marker lube, other than dangerous power's stock lube, should work great.
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Old 03-18-2014, 07:43 AM #11
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I figured out why the guy used baby oil, he said mike from ****** on a video told people to use baby oil to get rid of bolt stick.
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Old 03-18-2014, 10:14 AM #12
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This comes as a shock to some people, but the Mike guy really is a moron about a lot of things. He has caused a lot of people to use baby oil for the past few years. I get them coming in here with guns that do not shoot. They tell me they are using baby oil. I tell them to use something else and suddenly their guns is working EVERYTIME.

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Well i ended up buying a 2 oz tube of slick honey grease and read that it works good on the G4. Since the G4 i am buying comes with a bob long 360 reg instead of the stock one, should i lube that up as well as the bolt? I'm getting scared when i read further into that post firefox, I dont want to break anything on accident...
Its not that hard when you do it. Just make sure to be gentle on the wires is all. They are pretty forgiving.


The BL reg does not needs grease, it will be fine UNLESS it does not work right. Im sure its fine.

The stock reg usually does not need grease but you mine as well if you tear the entire gun down.


There is nothing to be worried about, the stock grease is crap. Baby oil works as a temp fix but not permanent. Re grease the noid once a year if that. Grease the bolt the night before you play.
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Old 03-23-2014, 01:03 AM #13
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okay so i got my g4, I was looking inside where the bolt goes and i was wondering if there should be an oring on the threads inside the breach? There looks like a spot where there should be one, but then again it looks like it could just be a spot for where the oring on the back cap can fit on when screwed on tight.
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Old 03-23-2014, 01:03 PM #14
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are you talking about the oring in front of the eyes? (between the barrel and eyes?

Yes it should be a 017 oring. This is the oring that seals the bolt in the forward position. Without this oring you will lose efficiency and consistency. You will also get air blowing back into the stack of paint and up into your loader. On most guns, this oring is located on the tip of the bolt rather than inside the breach.


In total, there is 3 orings on the inside of the G4/G5. You have the forward oring that you mentioned. You also have the oring at the front of the bolt (017) and oring at the rear of the bolt (I think 019, not sure).

The fourth oring is on the backcap stem.
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Old 03-23-2014, 01:43 PM #15
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Ok so i see three o rings inside the G4, then theres two o rings on the back cap.
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Old 03-23-2014, 01:57 PM #16
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yes. One large oring on the backcap near the threads. Then one oring on the backcap's stem.

You want to keep the bolt greased and then put whatever excess grease is on your fingers onto the backcap stem oring. Just enough to make it wet, dont goop it on. The backcap oring does not need grease but it wont hurt to keep it wet.

In total there are only 3 critical orings on the G4. The two that the bolt its inside and the backcap stem oring. The forward most breach oring is not critical to operation (wont cause a leak and the gun can fire without it) but it is essential for top performance.
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Old 03-23-2014, 02:07 PM #17
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Alright well i greased everything up and when i slide the bolt in, it doesn't slide it on its own, I have to push it very very lightly with my finger then it goes on smoothly.
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Old 03-23-2014, 02:09 PM #18
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Sounds normal. Overtime you will get a feeling for how the fit should be.

it should fit the backcap stem oring very loosely. It should fit the breach orings snug but slide freely when pushed by your finger. It will not fall out from gravity though.
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Old 03-23-2014, 02:11 PM #19
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Awesome! looks like i just greased up my bolt! feels good knowing you did something right haha, i don't have the right size to get my grips off to get into the solenoid so i can't grease that up yet
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Old 03-23-2014, 02:23 PM #20
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You can do it without unplugging stuff but I dont recommend it, especially for a first timer. Only useful if you have done it a million times and are too lazy to remove the grips
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BTW, Dow 33 is the appropriate lubricant for the G4. You can use whatever special branded grease, but you'll just be paying more.
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