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Old 02-15-2014, 06:10 AM #1
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J4 Paintball a new paintball company & gun - VIDEO ADDED




Its a teaser for J4 Paintball's new gun they are releasing. Something very innovative here. Check it out, I think they will be at the paintball extravaganza event.



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Barrel Threads:
Autococker ‘Quick’ threaded

Feedneck type:
Solid Mount to KEE ‘Sniper’ specs, with cam lock tightener

Bolt style:
Standard stacked tube pull pin style, with an Exalt bolt tip. This places the ball perfect in the stack for loading purposes, and works really well with our detent system

Ball detent:
We have a specific to J4 ball detent that is soft and durable while being very low profile. It is a dual detent style.

Toolless Breakdown:
For the spool and bolt, yes. To take off the grips you still need an allen wrench, but every contact point that will need oil, and every movement o-ring you can access in a few seconds.

Hoseless gun:
Yes. Bottom mount ASA reg with cam on/off.

Can I put on an upgraded reg:
Not at this time. The reg recharges for easy 20+bps cycling, and looks good on there, so it isn’t as important as it used to be.

Firing Modes:
We are finalizing that, but Semi, PSP, NPPL, Ramping and a few others will be standard.

Dwell Adjustment:
This marker is Auto-timed, partially because the valve design is self-controlling, mechanically. A long dwell doesn’t produce any more velocity (fps) then a short one. The dwell is adjusted with a Hall Effect sensor that notes the position of the bolt and times the marker accordingly, only to make sure the cycle has been completed before returning the bolt.

What adjustments will there be then:
There will be 3 settings for bolt pressure, including one being a ‘Soldier On’ setting that allows the marker to shoot in all conditions; freezing cold, gooped with paint, full of rain. Due to the internals, there is no effect on velocity by having a longer dwell, so in conjunction with the HE sensor there will not be a FSDO issue. This is not a finicky system, but very robust and capable. Set to ‘Soldier On’ you should be able to shoot through any bad paint, nasty back of the field situation in any weather and still get a ball out with enough velocity to do some damage. Set to ‘Delicate’ the gun should stop on most paintballs, and ‘Normal’ should set you up for regular everyday play.

What type of eyes:
Break beam, with a removable second board so you can change out with a color you might prefer.

Trigger type/style:
Right now a blade type trigger is being included. We will finalize a layout by the time we ship, but at the moment it could be interchangeable with a LUXE or similar.

The trigger Switch:
We have a leaf switch on the board

Battery:
Initially on the standard version we will have an LED board and 9V, the upper level design will have an OLED with a Li-po battery, with nearly 100,000 shots possible. All parts will be upgradable between the two platforms.

Operating pressure:
125-150psi, though it can be ran higher for extreme ROF – using a de-volumizer in the system. The solenoid is good for 200+psi

How many shots on [insert tank here]:
Right now we are working on tweaking the internals a bit, but 1600-1800 on a standard 68/4500 with a not quite full fill is easy, with the possibility of it being higher with a few adjustments, and actually trying to run a tighter bore barrel. That is average, loose barrel, average paint, consistent performance.

How loud is it:
It is actually quite quiet from our testing, 2 decibels lower than comparable spools with the same barrel, and even more so than most poppets.



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Old 02-15-2014, 06:11 AM #2
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Woo hooooooo first post on the new thread

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Old 02-15-2014, 07:57 AM #3
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Already any idea for when we can order a Custom anno job or splash anno ?

I am realy into the oil look thing or a nice camoish splash
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Old 02-15-2014, 09:43 AM #4
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Already any idea for when we can order a Custom anno job or splash anno ?

I am realy into the oil look thing or a nice camoish splash
After we've launched it and things settle I can't wait to see some lovely splashes and fades!
The renders I did got me quite excited
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After we've launched it and things settle I can't wait to see some lovely splashes and fades!
The renders I did got me quite excited
They are sweet !

If you can do a Dark coulored Aurora ........
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After we've launched it and things settle I can't wait to see some lovely splashes and fades! The renders I did got me quite excited
I have some crazy ideas for colors!
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They are sweet !

If you can do a Dark coulored Aurora ........
Neochrome can do it...it's gonna cost a grand to get it done, but it's do-able.
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A grand! Damn! I really want it done but man.. That's a lot.
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A grand! Damn! I really want it done but man.. That's a lot.
Yep. I request a rough-estimate every so often just to see if their cost fluctuates at all, and it's almost always around the $1,000 mark. There's a discussion about that sorta stuff over on the Inception forum, but I didn't read through it all. If Jack Wood or Simon are in the room they can explain it better than I can for sure.
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Pretty cool. Can't wait to see it finished - definitely will be a nice looking gun. Really looking forward to how it shoots as well.
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I read that the Aurora colour scheme was expensive... but that much? Ouch. Some say oil slick is similar and cheaper...

The UK anodising scene isn't as advanced as the US one simple due to the difference in the amount of paintballer ratio USA has over UK (I know they also do other items, but even custom bikes etc is bigger in America) - Caustic Customs work is amazing, IMO.

I was looking into learning how to do anodising but realised even if someone had a year more experience than me, it would be better. PLUS I can't be a jack of all trades... so i'll leave it to the pros
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I read that the Aurora colour scheme was expensive... but that much? Ouch. Some say oil slick is similar and cheaper...

The UK anodising scene isn't as advanced as the US one simple due to the difference in the amount of paintballer ratio USA has over UK (I know they also do other items, but even custom bikes etc is bigger in America) - Caustic Customs work is amazing, IMO.

I was looking into learning how to do anodising but realised even if someone had a year more experience than me, it would be better. PLUS I can't be a jack of all trades... so i'll leave it to the pros
Oil slick is neat to !

Well i wont go for a standard black one , all my markers are black or blackish
Might go for the dark aurora thing , very possible since j4 aswell is going to sell bare metal torque markers.
Just the price tag for the anno job.......
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Custom anodizing right now is more of an issue with demand and logistics. And to be honest, our inexperience with suppliers. The biggest hurdle for time has been setting up over 20 suppliers to get us the parts, on top of lots of design work ourselves.

Anything custom, while we want to be able to offer it, will have to come in time. Nothing can happen until we get enough sales to support ourselves, and get enough settled down and accomplished that we can even take the time to figure out the custom market and supply. We do have a good relationship with our production anodizers and a couple custom, like FX.

We do need a bit to get on our feet, we are still quite small.

We are so glad you guys have stuck with us, and are excited about our products. We are just focusing on getting this rolling and getting the first guns out for everybody. After we figure out our process for production, work a bit more with our suppliers, and take care of the initial demand, we can start of getting custom piece to you guys.

Until then, we have a couple companies online who can do the custom anodizing you want. We can get them raw bodies, have the do the anodizing, and we can assemble them and have them be factory warranty guns. This will be a slower process though, for one off guns, and not production.
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Thats exciting !!!!

One off gun order going to be placed when possible

Good luck starting up !
Must be hectic these days before the extravaganza
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