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Old 01-24-2014, 09:38 AM #22
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Or why GTs are 1400 and GTis are 1100.
Yeah and that...
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Old 01-24-2014, 09:49 AM #23
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they have had major typos like that before but they have also been blatant in just selling below MAP.

Cant they just do like other retailers and have an "add to basket to see price" deal to avoid a MAP violation?
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Old 01-24-2014, 10:11 AM #24
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An "add to basket to see price" deal to avoid a MAP violation is a MAP violation with most manufacturers....Prices have to be posted up front and visible.
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Old 01-24-2014, 10:27 AM #27
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They probably did this because they arent selling, the clones arent THAT popular of a gun. For every 10 Geos or Egos or LUXE you see one clone. They are doing just like they did with the machine vapors when they went from 1700 to 700. You don't see them dropping prices of the Geo like that, becuase they sell. ANS is a huge distributer, and apparently doesn't feel they need Macdev, one good thing about it is if you want to save 400 dollars, there is your chance.
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I always use trademygun.com or aggressive anyway so it doesn't affect me directly, but this AND the unwarrantied ANS anodized guns should persuade other manufacturers to follow suit.
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Old 01-24-2014, 10:31 AM #29
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I always use trademygun.com or aggressive anyway so it doesn't affect me directly, but this AND the unwarrantied ANS anodized guns should persuade other manufacturers to follow suit.
Ahhh trademygun.com, soooo much better of a choice to support the industry...irony?
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Old 01-24-2014, 10:34 AM #30
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Im glad to see someone do something besides just *****ing about ANS. As to the point of the clone not being as popular, MD has never been a massive name but they do have a strong following. The GT/gti has def gotten out there more than most MD guns. Either way, its not the choice of the retailer as to what the gun is valued at. They agreed to terms with the initial contract and they clearly had MAP rules in it. Regardless of how well its selling, that's just a blatant undercut of the people you came to an agreement with and a douchebag move. Turns out not only does ANS not care about my order, they also don't seem to care about their partners.
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Old 01-24-2014, 10:39 AM #31
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As I stated in the other thread, I am glad to see Macdev take this stance.

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Or why GTs are 1400 and GTis are 1100.
Because it is a sale not a price drop.


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I always use trademygun.com or aggressive anyway so it doesn't affect me directly, but this AND the unwarrantied ANS anodized guns should persuade other manufacturers to follow suit.
Trade My Gun had the same sale price yesterday...they were quick to change it back.

Whether or not MAP is a good or bad thing I think people over look the fact that distributors want to put items on sale because they are NOT selling. If GTi's were selling as fast as ANS could stock them then that would never change the price. My assumption would be they over estimated the amount of people that would buy a new GTi as opposed to upgrading their GT

When a distributor has stock (that they have already paid for) on the shelf (valuable shelf space) they need to lower the price to A) stay in business or B) buy more product from the manufacturer. If a distributor buys 1000 of X from a manufacturer and only sells 50 because they can not lower the price do you think the distributor is going to buy the next product the manufacturer releases?
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Old 01-24-2014, 10:45 AM #33
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wish all companies had the balls to stand up to ANUS Gear!! I know Virtue and TechT did, Macdev has my support
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Because it is a sale not a price drop.




Trade My Gun had the same sale price yesterday...they were quick to change it back.

Whether or not MAP is a good or bad thing I think people over look the fact that distributors want to put items on sale because they are NOT selling. If GTi's were selling as fast as ANS could stock them then that would never change the price. My assumption would be they over estimated the amount of people that would buy a new GTi as opposed to upgrading their GT

When a distributor has stock (that they have already paid for) on the shelf (valuable shelf space) they need to lower the price to A) stay in business or B) buy more product from the manufacturer. If a distributor buys 1000 of X from a manufacturer and only sells 50 because they can not lower the price do you think the distributor is going to buy the next product the manufacturer releases?
Our industry wants to drive sales to local stores, where MAP isn't an issue, which is why these policies are in place, to deter huge online stores from ****ting on brick and mortar stores.
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Old 01-24-2014, 10:46 AM #35
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Because it is a sale not a price drop.




Trade My Gun had the same sale price yesterday...they were quick to change it back.

Whether or not MAP is a good or bad thing I think people over look the fact that distributors want to put items on sale because they are NOT selling. If GTi's were selling as fast as ANS could stock them then that would never change the price. My assumption would be they over estimated the amount of people that would buy a new GTi as opposed to upgrading their GT

When a distributor has stock (that they have already paid for) on the shelf (valuable shelf space) they need to lower the price to A) stay in business or B) buy more product from the manufacturer. If a distributor buys 1000 of X from a manufacturer and only sells 50 because they can not lower the price do you think the distributor is going to buy the next product the manufacturer releases?
Well then that is a discussion you have with the other party in your contract. You should not go behind the other party's back and hack prices because you made a mistake in the numbers.
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Old 01-24-2014, 10:53 AM #36
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all of you saying you'll never buy from ANS must also boycott walmart, i'm sure. and you've never ordered something from amazon, either, huh?
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all of you saying you'll never buy from ANS must also boycott walmart, i'm sure. and you've never ordered something from amazon, either, huh?
Way to be that guy and twist it to the extreme. Can you find proof of manufacturers saying walmart went below map, same for amazon?
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Walmart sells a variety of items from pharmacy to electronic. ANS is paintball related items for the most part. So it easy to say I won't shop there. Walmart sells essentials. I don't need to play paintball but I'll save a couple extra bucks at Walmart on toilet paper and toothpaste but don't buy my groceries there try to support local farmers markets and retailers.
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Solid move, James!

I always buy from my local shops anyway, though.
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Well then that is a discussion you have with the other party in your contract. You should not go behind the other party's back and hack prices because you made a mistake in the numbers.
I do not disagree with you, just pointing it out. Personally I think MAP has some inherent flaws, but a contract is a contract.

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Our industry wants to drive sales to local stores, where MAP isn't an issue, which is why these policies are in place, to deter huge online stores from ****ting on brick and mortar stores.
I love local stores. If they have what I need I go there. However 50% of the time they do not and there is ANS, Amazon, etc.
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