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Old 12-15-2013, 05:58 PM #1
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**We're Listening - Milsig.ca Contest** - What's Stopping You from Mag-Fed/Milsim?

Name the Top 5 Reasons why you don't play Mag-Fed

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Old 12-17-2013, 07:19 AM #2
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1.) Convincing my friends to try it with me
2.) Deciding what gear to go with
3.) The pain of trying to sell my current gear at a decent price
4.) Start up cost (Gun, mags, tac-vest, etc)
5.) Scared to completely abandon the style of play I've participated in for more than a decade and try something new.
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Old 12-17-2013, 09:29 AM #3
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Hey Shocker!

Thanks for being the first to participate,

Yes - I've definitely heard your concerns from many people as well, so you're not alone... hopefully as MagFed begins to grow, some of those concerns will disappear as well.

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1.) Convincing my friends to try it with me
2.) Deciding what gear to go with
3.) The pain of trying to sell my current gear at a decent price
4.) Start up cost (Gun, mags, tac-vest, etc)
5.) Scared to completely abandon the style of play I've participated in for more than a decade and try something new.
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Old 12-17-2013, 10:49 AM #4
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1. Price point of a decent setup.
2. I haven't seen many Milsim items selling on nation.
3. I don't see many people at my local field playing.
4. I'm unable to test out any type of milsim marker and see if I would like enjoy this style of play.
5. Haven't seen any offered tournaments in my local area.
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Old 12-17-2013, 11:02 AM #5
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I don't have 5 reasons. I bought an MRX so I can try it out without dropping a large amount of money, and I enjoyed it for the few times I used it in scenario games this year. I would end up going back to my PM's or Omen.

1. My friends are not avid paintball players, don't have gear, and getting a group to play is difficult when they actually want to go.
2. Finding a field near by that has Mag Fed games.
3. Price, it is a bit expensive when you want to get to different guns and gear.

Hoping to be able to get more time with mag fed markers this coming year.
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Old 12-17-2013, 11:07 AM #6
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1) price of decent gun
2) if I go to a field, everyone is using automatics and hopper guns so they have a clear advantage
3) need more mag fed only events
4) want to guns to feel like the true gun they represent. like all metal no plastic.
5) Haven't seen too many advertised on the market

all those aside I would try a mag fed out in a head beat!
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Old 12-17-2013, 12:17 PM #7
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1. learned a long time ago to only buy a gun you have had a chance to use in a game

2. I'm at odds with the idea of paintball guns looking more like real guns. Cool, but maybe a bad idea

3. I feel like magazine size combined with time to reload puts you at a significant disadvantage. Thats coming from a primarily pump player

4. Need more exposure of these guns being used. A Youtube video series posted on PBN would be amazing. Something simple like Wolf's Den does http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PegLt...h8SZfh5b1VxUhQ

5. I would like to have an idea of how many shots you get off a tank/12 gram. Especially for when the gun runs a 13ci in the stock. Only seen one magfed type with that info so far.

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Old 12-17-2013, 12:33 PM #8
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Thanks guys,

Your input and insight is appreciated!

Full-auto / people with hoppers is definitely an issue... I guess that just means more magfed/milsim games need to get started!
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Old 12-17-2013, 03:35 PM #9
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From what I've seen, it looks like most magfed guns are getting 100-130 shots on a 13/3k. Not sure about 12G but with the exception of Tiberius/TiPX, not sure what guns you'd be running with a 12G.

And really, unless you're carrying like 10 mags, you most likely won't run into an issue with air.
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Old 12-17-2013, 06:05 PM #10
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I want to start by saying that I am a normal kid that has only been playing for a year. I live a normal life in a normal neighborhood, go to a normal high school, and have a normal family who does the best they can for me. Everyday I feel like something special is going to happen to me, but it never does, but that is because there are thousands of others exactly like me. I love the sport and get out on the field every chance I get. Having an Alpha Black, I am not the best player. The only Milsig related item that I have is a remote line, which I can thank Doug Brown for. He assisted me when it was malfunctioning. I am extremely eager to get a Milsig marker and am saving money each day. Right now there are five reasons why I do not play mag-fed.

1. Mag-Fed is extremely cool and is most likely more realistic than hopper fed, but that means I would need a tactical vest to hold more magazines and other essentials. Getting a vest adds a lot of weight, especially for me.

2. I am not playing mag-fed as of now because all of my friends that I play with play speedball/ hyper ball/ air ball. They were the ones who told me not to spend money on a Milsig/ mag-fed gun in the first place. I now regret my decision on getting a hopper fed woods ball marker.

3. I love paintball more than any other activity, And like anyone, I would not want to ruin my equipment. My biggest fear is spending hundreds of dollars on a marker and it later breaks. I do not want that to happen to me.

4. The fourth reason why I am not a mag-fed player is because I want to fit in. I do not want to be the only person on the field with a mag fed marker because of what others have to say. Sure there will be some that say I have a great gun and it is better than theirs, but others will say that I am going to die on the field. I have 10-20 shots, they have 150-200 I would have no time to reload. Now I see that I should not give in to conformity which is doing what others do so I can fit in. I realized that I should do what I want to do, and in my eyes, that is playing mag-fed so it can feel more realistic. Playing mag-fed is something I have always wanted to try the second I started paintball.

5. Finally, I am not playing mag-fed because cleaning would be a hassle. I have seen videos where people do not put the magazine in properly, and they end up smashing a paintball. To clean a mess like that would require hard work to clean the mag, and most likely a disassembly of the marker. That could ruin the day. Now I realize that I would only need to practice.

I apologize for it being so long.
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Old 12-18-2013, 05:42 AM #11
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1. The cost of the markers
2. Not many people around me play it
3. Upgrades
That's all I can think about. Besides that I got to try a gun and it pretty cool. More realistic.
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Old 12-18-2013, 09:36 AM #12
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1. change is scary
2. It feels more "novelty" than anything else
3. I've heard lots of horror stories about mag fed paintball markers not working very well
4. If i knew that everyone else would be using it as well, I would happily use it. That's not the case, though. Being under-powered isn't fun.
5. I don't need to use realistic looking markers, and play military dress-up to have a good time.
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Old 12-18-2013, 11:35 AM #13
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1) Don't want to drop that kind of money on a setup without trying it first
2) location to play where others use them/ no friends interested in dropping cash for it
3) Events are a distance away and none in my local area
4) I would hate to spend so much money to not like it, would like to try a gun out first.
5) Playing against speed I would probably get hosed
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Old 12-18-2013, 04:34 PM #14
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1. Having no idea what kind of setup to get.
2. The cost of getting started
3. Finding the fields to play at
4. Have way to much gear to begin with
5. Finding the time between the two
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Old 12-19-2013, 03:28 PM #15
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1. Kinda Overwhelming when you only have a mag of 15rds and the enemy's have 200 rd hoppers.
2. Kinda like the first one, you are shooting semi auto while the enemy is shooting 12bps at you.
3. Price for even a decent milsim marker is alot more than a regular paintball marker.
4. All the extra equipment you need to buy is expensive.
5. Worried that if I try it out, and don't like it I just wasted $400 or more

The guns do look really cool though, and it would be a fun challenge.
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1. Weight of a 'mag setup vs a ten-round tube setup
2. Logistics of building/converting to a 'mag setup
3. Price of building/converting to a 'mag-fed setup
4. Specificity of mag-fed setup vs a ten-round tube setup. Ten-round tubes and stick feeds can be used on any marker, so one setup works for everything, while each mag-fed marker requires its own mag carrying setup.
5. Poor ergonomics of mag-fed markers for me; I like tank on-gun, but hate stocks and bottomline. Vertical and Hawaiian air aren't compatible with most mag-fed markers.
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Old 12-19-2013, 06:39 PM #17
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1. More expensive than regular paintball guns
2. You will have to buy more gear to look realistic (clothes, etc.)
3. Gets hot with all the gear
4. regular PB is less hassle
5. too little air and ammo
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Old 12-20-2013, 09:39 AM #18
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1. This kind of pball play is not popular where I am located. Nobody has ever showed up to the fields with a mag fed marker, ever. There are no mag fed games or any kind of mil-sims near where we play.

I'd love to try out an mag fed MP5-PDW if there is one out there though!
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1. I don't like the idea of only being able to use a marker for one type of play
2. Price of a decent mag fed
3. More money being invested into gear than actual playing (vests, extra mags, etc)
4. Long-drawn out woodsball games
5. Weight of mag fed guns. Seems to me that they all weigh upwards of 5 pounds.

Side note: I would rather play with an ego 11 and a 90/4500 with a remote line because i know it would weigh less than a Mag fed gun alone. And i know I could get upwards of 15 pods off of that gun.
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1. Weight of a 'mag setup vs a ten-round tube setup
2. Logistics of building/converting to a 'mag setup
3. Price of building/converting to a 'mag-fed setup
4. Specificity of mag-fed setup vs a ten-round tube setup. Ten-round tubes and stick feeds can be used on any marker, so one setup works for everything, while each mag-fed marker requires its own mag carrying setup.
5. Poor ergonomics of mag-fed markers for me; I like tank on-gun, but hate stocks and bottomline. Vertical and Hawaiian air aren't compatible with most mag-fed markers.
Nailed it!

But I decided I had to try it anyway!

The bonus is I really enjoy the events and games put on by a lot of magfed enthusiasts and now I can play them with minimal hassle.
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Quote:
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1. Weight of a 'mag setup vs a ten-round tube setup
2. Logistics of building/converting to a 'mag setup
3. Price of building/converting to a 'mag-fed setup
4. Specificity of mag-fed setup vs a ten-round tube setup. Ten-round tubes and stick feeds can be used on any marker, so one setup works for everything, while each mag-fed marker requires its own mag carrying setup.
5. Poor ergonomics of mag-fed markers for me; I like tank on-gun, but hate stocks and bottomline. Vertical and Hawaiian air aren't compatible with most mag-fed markers.
I've been playing paintball for about 16 years now. I have never heard the term Hawaiian air. What the heck does that mean?
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